• ARRSE have partnered with Armadillo Merino to bring you an ARRSE exclusive, generous discount offer on their full price range.
    To keep you warm with the best of Merino gear, visit www.armadillomerino.co.uk and use the code: NEWARRSE40 at the checkout to get 40% off!
    This superb deal has been generously offered to us by Armadillo Merino and is valid until midnight on the the 28th of February.

Issue helmet - Ballistic properties

wedge_cadman

War Hero
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
#1
We are in the process of reviewing for arrse some helmet inserts for the combat helmet. These are foam pads which are inserted inside the helmet to give extra padding/comfort.

A few of us have tried the pads and are having issues with fit once added. So my questions are;

Does the hardened insert which all the issue leather pads straps fix to add to the ballistic properties of the helmet? (mk6a)

Will removal of said insert make any difference?

Cheers.
 
#6
A mate of mine who was in quite a while ago had told me that the polystyrene (the hard inserts you speak of) was there to hold your head together in the event of a round penetrating the helmet. The polystyrene would melt rather than shatter/break so would remain intact. Not sure if this is bullshit or not though.

Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk
 
#7
We are in the process of reviewing for arrse some helmet inserts for the combat helmet. These are foam pads which are inserted inside the helmet to give extra padding/comfort.

A few of us have tried the pads and are having issues with fit once added. So my questions are;

Does the hardened insert which all the issue leather pads straps fix to add to the ballistic properties of the helmet? (mk6a)

Will removal of said insert make any difference?

Cheers.
I'll read the review out of interest but, could I ask are these similar to the ones that the septics buy for themselves or get given by various charities?
 

wedge_cadman

War Hero
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
#8
They are designed for the Septic helmet. Not sure if they are issued/bought/charity handout for the US. They are looking to the UK market as I understand it from a buy your own kit point of view
 
#9
They are designed for the Septic helmet. Not sure if they are issued/bought/charity handout for the US. They are looking to the UK market as I understand it from a buy your own kit point of view
I did that to my mk6a for H11, took all the guts out and used them velcro in pads that the septics have. I had no issues and my melon's still in one piece.
 
#13
I did that to my mk6a for H11, took all the guts out and used them velcro in pads that the septics have. I had no issues and my melon's still in one piece.
Ah but were you shot in the helmet or did you have to claim after an accident wearing said modification? :)
 
#15
off topic (but it is my thread) Is the US Helmet a worse spec?
Probably not, but the helmet has been tested with the current system not the modification, thats where the issue will come from, it would be classed along the same lines as modifying safety equipment.

Also the MK7 now has gone a step further to address the poor design, ok not as complex as the us helmet but along the right lines.
 
#17
Ah but were you shot in the helmet or did you have to claim after an accident wearing said modification? :)
Ah none of the above, just a load more comfortable.

On a side note a good 50% of our FSG were wearing yank ACH because they said it offers better protection?
 
#18
Ah none of the above, just a load more comfortable.

On a side note a good 50% of our FSG were wearing yank ACH because they said it offers better protection? (allyness saves live too)
Agree the comfort could have been improved beyond a mesh head lining.

And yes you could say that the Fritz style does provide more portection to the wearer, strangly enough someone noted that as UOR the MK7 :)

Ballistically you may fine its very close, would probably be a question of cost and whos got the bigger military budget me thinks
 
#19
They are designed for the Septic helmet. Not sure if they are issued/bought/charity handout for the US. They are looking to the UK market as I understand it from a buy your own kit point of view
The septics have a couple of charities buying and giving the Oregon insert kits to their troops.

Pad Systems

I recall the last time I looked at a septic pisspot it was full of not too friendly webbing and a piss poor strap system more conducive to causing whiplash neck injury than preventing harm. So for them I can see some benefits.

In addition to the Oregon gear I have also seen the Skydex kit, sorry I could only find some piccies at the SKDTAC site:

Skydex: PASGT, Helmet Pad, Knee Pad for BDU/ACU, ACH ::SKD TACTICAL
 

Latest Threads