Israeli soldiers headgear - wtf?

#23
Having seen these things on the telly, I'm not sure they are actually that whitish colour. What's happening here is they are reflecting the light off the flare or whatever is doing the illumination in that shot. Sort of " Look! Here I am!"
 
#25
SADF?

It packs down to the size of a piece of flanellette; normal size is restored by either rubbing it or exposing to porn.
 
#26
The miznefet covers mainly the back of the helmet & neck, so a marksmen aiming from behind a soldier can't distinguish where the protection from the helmet ends, because the IDF mainly fight in built up areas, alot of the time they fight on a 360 battlefield, therefore the miznefet has proved pretty good, even though it looks sh!t
 
#27
Thanks to the media blankout, nobody is going to learn the truth about how such things fare in FIBUA. Turn the corner of the stairwell and a round in the face, camo or no.
 
#28
The-Goose said:
Arik said:
The combat kit is developed and well researched. The miznefet is very effective.
Which is why so many other Professional Armies have adopted it in use as well? - like ?
There's a reason why the Yanks give the Israeli's about 200 billion dollars a year, as they get quite a few of the developments that they make given to them as well. At least, that's what i heard.


I'll get me coat.
 
#29
Serious question though, from a civvie, but these tin things you chaps stick on your heads. Could they really stop a 7.62 from a Kalashnikov fired at less than 3 yards? I'd like to think yes, but I frankly doubt it.
 
#30
I saw footage of the IDF tonight; looking at the large pack one of the Pedestrians wore, seemed to be two RPG-like warheads sticking out - could this have been the ( rather nifty ) universal door opener I saw on Future Weapons?
 
#33
scrofula said:
Serious question though, from a civvie, but these tin things you chaps stick on your heads. Could they really stop a 7.62 from a Kalashnikov fired at less than 3 yards? I'd like to think yes, but I frankly doubt it.
lids are made to deflect rounds not stop them (if that makes any sense)
 
#34
Yes, that does make sense. Let's hope it works in practice. Personally, if I was in the position you chaps find yourself in, my philosopy would be - forget the armour, be fly, very , very fly. Of course, there are no simple answers, keep on keeping on, as the saying goes. I honestly wish you lads weren't wasting your time and lives there, but, shit, that's the contract innit?
 
#35
The helmet covers are simply to enable the wearer to blend in on rocky or rubble strewn surfaces. It has exactly the same effect at a lid-full of shrubbery does in greener climes, i.e. shape disruption. It must work otherwise they wouldn't bother.
 
#36
Bravo_Bravo said:
I saw footage of the IDF tonight; looking at the large pack one of the Pedestrians wore, seemed to be two RPG-like warheads sticking out - could this have been the ( rather nifty ) universal door opener I saw on Future Weapons?
I suspect they have finally developed the battlefield personal rocket-pack. Was said grunt flying through the air in a controlled fashion at the time?
 
#37
Bravo_Bravo said:
I saw footage of the IDF tonight; looking at the large pack one of the Pedestrians wore, seemed to be two RPG-like warheads sticking out - could this have been the ( rather nifty ) universal door opener I saw on Future Weapons?
That would be a collapsible stretcher. The bits you thought were RPG's were the handles :x .
 
#38
I think the aim is to create an outline that blends in better with the environment. Its quite convincing when they're lying down in rubble. Then again they look like **** .
 
#39
Cadet said:
I think the aim is to create an outline that blends in better with the environment. Its quite convincing when they're lying down in rubble. Then again they look like **** .
Is that something you are worried about when real bullets are flying?
Thought not.
:wink:
 
#40
scrofula said:
Yes, that does make sense. Let's hope it works in practice. Personally, if I was in the position you chaps find yourself in, my philosopy would be - forget the armour, be fly, very , very fly. Of course, there are no simple answers, keep on keeping on, as the saying goes. I honestly wish you lads weren't wasting your time and lives there, but, s***, that's the contract innit?
The same reason a bullet proof vest is not bullet proof.
(and they were designed for flak not bullets)

Its a mix of convenience, weight, the ability to move, and the risk of being hit. It's not just direct impact of a round, but also shrapnel and debris.

A helmet or vest may not stop a high velocity round but it's better than nothing, and can be the difference between death and wound.

Remember the front page scandals of soldiers killed because their personal armour was taken off them for other front line troops?
 

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