Israel is a strategic burden for USA

#1
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html

Why has the US been willing to set aside its own security and that of many of its allies in order to advance the interests of another state?
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The first Gulf War revealed the extent to which Israel was becoming a strategic burden. The US could not use Israeli bases without rupturing the anti-Iraq coalition
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As for so-called rogue states in the Middle East, they are not a dire threat to vital US interests, except inasmuch as they are a threat to Israel.
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A final reason to question Israel’s strategic value is that it does not behave like a loyal ally. Israeli officials frequently ignore US requests and renege on promises
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Israel has provided sensitive military technology to potential rivals like China
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Some aspects of Israeli democracy are at odds with core American values. Unlike the US, where people are supposed to enjoy equal rights irrespective of race, religion or ethnicity, Israel was explicitly founded as a Jewish state and citizenship is based on the principle of blood kinship.
 
#2
KGB_resident said:
Israel was explicitly founded as a Jewish state and citizenship is based on the principle of blood kinship.
So, in their Bible, (our one has a bit in it called the Old Testament which looks the same as theirs) it says that God begat Adam, who got the horn, so he begat Eve, and they begat Cain and Able, and then lots of begatting happened, which means that we are all related, ie descended from the Jews, which means we can all apply for citizenship!

Hooraaaayy! Lets send all the asylum seekers their way! That'll fix 'em
 
#3
londonirish said:
so, in their Bible, (our one has a bit in it called the Old Testament which looks the same as theirs) it says that God begat Adam, who got the horn, so he begat Eve, and they begat Cain and Able, and then lots of begatting happened, which means that we are all related, ie descended from the Jews, which means we can all apply for citizenship!

Hooraaaayy! Lets send all the asylum seekers their way! That'll fix 'em
Not quite that simple, we (human kind) are all descended from Adam but Jews are descended from Abraham (as are arabs).

The Old Testament found in churches may use different words from the biblical scrolls (found in a synagogue) due to variations in transalations in countries and maybe different branches of Christianity, etc.

As for asylum seekers, Israel got too many of those in the '90s when the floodgates were opened to the Russians after the fall of the Soviet empire.
 
#5
[quote="Arik As for asylum seekers, Israel got too many of those in the '90s when the floodgates were opened to the Russians after the fall of the Soviet empire.[/quote]

Then again, quite a few came in just after the Second World War aswell didn't they?
 
#7
yeah, and someone should tell the Jews and Arabs that they are all the same really, descended from father Abraham, who had seven sons, I mean they can use the same butchers right? so surely a large halal/kosher meat market cooperative would do the trick and stop all the trouble?
 
#8
Arik said:
londonirish said:
so, in their Bible, (our one has a bit in it called the Old Testament which looks the same as theirs) it says that God begat Adam, who got the horn, so he begat Eve, and they begat Cain and Able, and then lots of begatting happened, which means that we are all related, ie descended from the Jews, which means we can all apply for citizenship!

Hooraaaayy! Lets send all the asylum seekers their way! That'll fix 'em
Not quite that simple, we (human kind) are all descended from Adam but Jews are descended from Abraham (as are arabs).
No we are not! That is a religous myth perpetuated down the centuries to engender a control mechanism over the great unwashed.

There was not one eve, but 7 of them who 99% of the population can be traced from.

Don't include me in your blinkered god bothering. :D
 
#9
Livin_on_a_prayer said:
Unlike the US, where people are supposed to enjoy equal rights irrespective of race, religion or ethnicity
Unless your black, gay or a non-christian :roll:
and dont forget all the mexicans? :eek:
 
#11
londonirish said:
yeah, and someone should tell the Jews and Arabs that they are all the same really, descended from father Abraham, who had seven sons, I mean they can use the same butchers right? so surely a large halal/kosher meat market cooperative would do the trick and stop all the trouble?
At the end of the day I suppose it is a falling out between cousins!!

LondonIrish - the respective dietary laws do not allow Jews to eat Halal, but Muslims can eat Kosher meat.

AgentSmith - As for my comment about the bible in response to LondonIrish, I should of qualified that to say that the source of mankind, etc depends on what one personally believes. Each to their own!
 
#13
oh well since we gave jordon some chally 1 at least the argument m1 vrs chally should be sorted out when it kicks off :)
 
#14
well as far as I am concerned the race of Men is descended from the Numenorians, who travelled over the sea, and settled two Kindoms, Gondor in the South, capital Minas Tirith, and also the Norhtern Kindom, the capital of which was Angmar, as written in the Lord of the Rings, and also, The Silmarillion, transtlated from the original Elvish by the well known medieval scholar and Old English expert JRR Tolkien, and I won't brook any dissaggreement over this, its true, cos its in a book, and thats it, anyone with a different view is clearly an infidel gentile pagan whoreson and this is the longest sentence on ARRSE and my mum takes in stray cats, who in themselves were a rockabilly band in the early 80s and .....cont p94
 

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