Israel. En route to corrupted aggressive theocracy?

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En route to theocracy? - Israel Opinion, Ynetnews

Assaf Wohl wrote

I’m not referring to the Iranian threat here; the Iranians are treating us decently while openly declaring their intentions, so we can prepare accordingly.

I’m referring to the dramatic change in the ideological balance of power within the State of Israel, a country that is turning from a democracy into a theocracy.
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Israel’s political-religious map shows new trends... At this time, the Shas movement is in the process of completing its build-up and acquisition of political clout.
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“We must bomb thousands of homes in Gaza; ruin Gaza,” a Shas minister said during Operation Cast Lead. He based his stance on the “Torah view.”
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Most Shas supporters don’t care about the fact that democratic state institutions protect them from a party whose existence depends on exploiting them. Most of these Shas fans would not be able to last in the corrupt Shas state for even 15 minutes.
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We may be enjoying the final years of Israeli democracy. I’m skeptical whether 10 years from now, such articles would even be allowed. Eli Yishai is growing stronger, while the fans of democracy are growing weaker.
Looks as a pure fantasy... though... who knows?
 
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The delights of a messed voting sytem that delivers mainstream parties to the mercy of the Nutty end of the gene pool


Yup, a pure form of PR that some in the UK think we should adopt but ignore the fact that a national vote like Israel uses would mean both the loony right and loony left along with any Islamists or other religious nutters would also garner enough votes to get MP's elected.
 
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En route to theocracy? - Israel Opinion, Ynetnews

Assaf Wohl wrote



Looks as a pure fantasy... though... who knows?
Sergey,

You should really read the OP-ED articles for some US towns. You would have all kinds of nutty conspiracy theory stuff to spread around.

Don't you people ever get tired of bashing israel or do you truly believe that little country is the epicenter of all the worlds woes? I mean seriously, are you all suggesting that if they were gone that everything would be dandy?

Personally I think you all just like to whine about things and israel is simply an easy target.
 
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Ghost, personally I don't think that Israel will become a theocracy anytime soon.

However, apparently there are some problems. So I would like to see other opinions. As I understand you don't believe in theocratic Israel. OK.
 
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Hey what's not to like. The Pals under Hamas are a pretty aggressive theocracy, so obviously they'll be chums. Either that or it'll all get a bit Biblical.
But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:

But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:

That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.

Deuteronomy 20:16-18 (KJV)
 
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Yup, a pure form of PR that some in the UK think we should adopt but ignore the fact that a national vote like Israel uses would mean both the loony right and loony left along with any Islamists or other religious nutters would also garner enough votes to get MP's elected.
Not if we have a 4 or 5% threshold. Saying that, if these people get enough votes they deserve a say in the way things are run. Its called democracy.

FPTP is a joke. I understand the arguments that it gives strong government. But if thats the case, why have we got a coalition? And why have we had two since the Second World War (When we also had a coalition)? And even then, whats wrong with coalitions? The current one seems to be working pretty well.

The Lib Dems got 23% of votes, but only 9% of seats. That nearly a quartar of the population, and yet they have under a tenth of the seats. Ridiculous. Similarly, Labour got 28% of votes and yet 39% of seats. Crazy.




Personally I live in the Riverside constituency which has been solidly Labour since its formation in 1983. A vote for anyone else is a wasted vote.
 
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The Lib Dems got 23% of votes, but only 9% of seats. That nearly a quartar of the population, and yet they have under a tenth of the seats. Ridiculous. Similarly, Labour got 28% of votes and yet 39% of seats. Crazy.
Nothing to do with the fact that Labour spent 13 years carefully tweaking the system to ensure Labour areas stayed Labour whilst ensuring that strong Tory or Liberal areas had their votes thinned by "Boundary changes ".....
 

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