Israel bombs Syrian targets

#1
Breaking news on Reuters and Al-Jazeera. No more info as yet.
 
#2
Al-Jazeera: Israeli jets 'enter' Syria airspace

Israeli aircraft have bombed an unidentified target in Syria, according to Syrian media sources.

Syrian media said that there were no casualties from the incident, which occurred on Thursday

Israel declined immediate comment on the allegations.

Initial reports from Syria said its air defences went into action after Israeli jets entered Syrian airspace at dawn on Thursday.

An army spokesman told the official SANA news agency: "Enemy Israeli planes penetrated Syrian air space from the Mediterranean Sea heading towards the northeast, breaking the sound barrier."

He said: "Our air defences forced them to leave ... without causing human or material loss."

Syria and Israel remain technically at a state of war.

Peace talks broke down in 2000 over the fate of the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.


BBC: Syria 'fires on Israel warplanes'

Syria says its air defences have opened fire on Israeli war planes which had entered Syrian airspace.
The action took place "without causing human or material loss", according to the official Syrian news agency, SANA.

In a statement, Syria's Ministry of Defence said the incident happened close to Daaraa, in the south of the country.

Syria and Israel remain technically at war following the seizure by Israel of the Golan Heights in 1967.

The Israeli military says it is looking into the report of the incident.

Tensions between Israeli and Syria have been rising in recent months. Both countries' leaders have said their countries do not want a war, while accusing the other side of arming for a conflict.


Perhaps not that serious...
 
#3
The Israelis have a long-standing penchant for dropping sonic booms over Syria when they're a bit irritated with Damascus; there's a chance that the 'bombing' may turn out to be nothing more than people on the ground mistaking the boom for the sound of an explosion.
 
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Analysis: The miscalculation we'd been dreading?
By YAAKOV KATZ

Since the Second Lebanon War, both Israel and Syria have been preparing their militaries for war. The assumption within the defense establishment was that a "miscalculation" - the IDF's word for a misstep, wrong move or accidental misunderstanding along the Golan Heights - could lead to armed conflict.

Syria's claim that Israel Air Force jets infiltrated its airspace pre-dawn Thursday has the potential of becoming just that - a miscalculation - and depending on President Bashar Assad's response, it could very well lead to all-out war.

Not much is known about the late-night flyover. The IDF is, unusually, refusing to comment, and most of the information coming out on the incident is from Syrian military and government sources. The IDF's response is intended to blur the incident.

If the Syrian report is true, as it seems to be, the question which begs to be asked is what was a formation of four-to-five IAF fighter jets doing over the northern Syrian coastal city of Latakia?

There are several possibilities: Firstly that the planes were collecting intelligence, possibly connected to Syria's Scud missile launchers that are believed to be stored in the northern part of the country. If that is the case, then why did they break the sound barrier, as the Syrians reported? If they were intelligence surveillance aircraft, they probably would have wanted to operate covertly and not out in the open.

There could be several explanations - Israel might have been checking out the capabilities of Syria's newly-delivered and Russian-developed anti-aircraft systems.

Whatever it was, the question the IDF top brass is asking itself now is - will the incident lead to war? Following the Second Lebanon War and the rising tensions with Damascus, Military Intelligence's assessment was that the IDF no longer had the privilege of flying over Syria without risking a harsh military response. Forays, like the one over Assad's palace in Latakia following the abduction of Cpl. Gilad Schalit in Gaza last June, were now deemed dangerous moves that ran the risk of leading Israel and Syria to war.

What is concerning is the escalation in Syrian rhetoric, particularly the remarks made by the Syrian information minister, who said Thursday that his country would "find the way" to respond to the alleged Israeli infiltration.

According to IDF assessments, Syria is not really interested in an armed conflict with Israel but has - since the Second Lebanon War - been preparing for war. Due to a lack of communication between the two countries, the IDF assessment has been that a war could erupt if a diplomatic resolution is not reached beforehand.

If it wants war, this could explain why Syria is playing up the alleged infiltration - preparing to use the IAF flyover as their casus belli and as an excuse to be used to accuse Israel of committing an act of aggression that led to war.
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Syria-Israel bombing incident shrouded in mystery

By Alastair Macdonald Fri Sep 7, 1:19 PM ET

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Mystery still shrouds Syria's complaint that Israel bombed its territory but the incident has set nerves jangling across the Middle East, with commentators urging both sides on Friday against an escalation into war.

Egypt, pioneer of Arab-Israeli detente, said Israel was fuelling tension. The Arab League said "unacceptable maneuvers" showed Israeli bad faith toward peace talks in the region -- the United States aims to host a conference soon involving Israel and its neighbors, with a view to resolving Palestinian claims.

"This is the beginning of a Syrian-Israeli conflict," said Sateh Noureddine, columnist with Lebanese newspaper as-Safir. He saw it as a follow-on from Israel's war in Lebanon a year ago.

Within Israel, there was criticism, too. An analyst wrote in the left-leaning Haaretz daily that commanders misunderstood the consequences and risked provoking a "pre-emptive strike."

A former Israeli diplomat who has worked for a resumption of long-stalled peace talks with Damascus said he was worried by a "very aggressive" Israeli message after a summer in which nervous speculation on both sides of a surprise attack by the other has mingled with public offers of renewed negotiations.

But a day after Syria said its forces "confronted" Israeli aircraft in the early hours of Thursday and warned that it might respond to "aggression and treachery," the Israeli government stuck to a blanket refusal to comment, leaving analysts picking over the terse Syrian statement and guessing at what happened.

Although one Syrian official said troops "fired heavily" at Israeli planes, the state news agency spoke only of air defenses "confronting" them -- a phrase that several analysts, including Jihad al-Khazen of pan-Arab newspaper al-Hayat, said could mean simply locking on radar rather than opening fire.

"It leaves plenty of room for interpretation," Khazen said.

The Syrian statement said Israelis "dropped munitions" that did no damage. A Western diplomat in Damascus offered what many found a plausible version of events -- that a reconnaissance mission found itself targeted by Syrian radar, or actual fire, and jettisoned its load as part of an evasive maneuver.

WHAT CHANGED?

Israeli officials, speaking privately, do not deny Syrian accusations that Israel conducts such missions over Syria, which has left analysts pondering why Thursday's ended differently.

Was Syria's military response different from before or was the difference only that it protested publicly? Did it show Syria's defenses have improved with Russian hardware bought since Israel's war in Lebanon? Were the Israeli pilots just careless? Or did they deliberately provoke a Syrian response?

For Lebanese commentator Noureddine, "It was no mistake ... that the Israelis reached that area. It was ... a test for Syria's military, political and psychological defenses.

"As for Syria's announcement, that is a warning that any other step like that can be considered as the start of a war."

Reuven Pedhatzur, an analyst and former Israeli pilot, wrote in Haaretz that, despite recent high tensions with Damascus, whoever ordered the mission failed to grasp its consequences.

Referring to Syria's part in the 1967 war that saw Israel seize the Golan Heights, he added: "Like 40 years ago, the two sides could lose control of the situation and war could break out through a misunderstanding of the other side's intentions."

Eyal Zisser, another Israeli analyst, had praise for Syria: "Any misunderstanding could lead to conflagration. However, the Syrian announcement was surprising in its moderation."

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad had shown such "moderation" before, Zisser wrote in Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper, in that warnings of retaliation had not come to actual conflict.

Arguing the Lebanon war between Israel and Syria's Hezbollah allies had disturbed the status quo, however, he added: "Both sides should make more effort in future to avoid deterioration."

Retired senior Israeli diplomat Alon Liel, who has worked with Syrian representatives to promote negotiations, said Prime Minister Ehud Olmert risked giving Syria grounds for war at a time when, he believed, both sides had a chance to talk peace:

"I see here an Israeli message that is very aggressive," Liel said on Friday. "And I'm worried."

Olmert himself was quoted as telling Israeli reporters, however, that all was well: "Do I not look relaxed?"
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Iran blasts Israeli 'violation of Syrian airspace'

Fri Sep 7, 8:37 AM ET


TEHRAN (AFP) - Iran condemned the intrusion this week of Israeli aircraft into Syrian airspace, calling it shameful and provocative, Iranian media reported on Friday.
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They quoted foreign ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini as saying: "This shameful and provocative act aims at carrying the crises and internal problems outside the (Israeli) frontiers and creating insecurity in the region."

Iran is Syria's main regional ally, and Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki phoned his Syrian counterpart, Walid Muallem, to express Tehran's solidarity with Damascus.

Syria said on Thursday that its air defences opened fire on Israeli warplanes which had violated its airspace at dawn that day.

"Enemy Israeli planes penetrated Syrian airspace from the Mediterranean Sea heading towards the northeast, breaking the sound barrier," a Syrian army spokesman told the official SANA news agency.

"Our air defences repulsed them and forced them to leave... after the Israeli planes dropped munitions, without causing human or material loss," he said, without giving further information on what exactly was dropped.

The Jewish state refused any comment
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Syrian VP says Damascus' response to IAF action will come quickly
By Yoav Stern and Mazal Mualem, Haaretz Correspondents, and News Agencies

Syria's vice president said that Damascus was considering a number of responses, which it would not be slow to take, to an alleged flight by Israel Air Force jets over Syrian territory early Thursday morning.

"Leaders and senior [Syrian] military officials are considering a series of responses. The results won't take long to come," Syrian Vice President Syrian Vice President Farouk Shara said in an interview released Saturday with the Italian newspaper La Repubblica.

Damascus said Thursday that Israeli jets broke the sound barrier flying over northern Syria, and then dropped munitions onto deserted areas after being shot at by Syria's air defenses. (Click here for map)
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Shara also said he was unable to reveal additional information because Syria's plans were a "national security matter."

A Syrian government newspaper on Saturday called the alleged IAF violation of Syrian airspace a joint U.S.-Israel operation, adding that the United States' silence on the issue encourages Israel's actions.

"This new Israeli hostile operation was carried out in coordination between Washington and Tel Aviv," the Tishrin newspaper said in a front-page editorial. "U.S. silence can only be interpreted as an overt and scandalous encouragement of Israel," it said.

It is still unclear exactly what happened, and Syria has stopped short of accusing Israel of purposely bombing its territory. An Israeli spokesman has said he could not comment on military operations. A Syrian analyst told Hebzollah's Al-Manar television that the plane was likely dumping munitions in order to maneuver, and was not carrying out a bombing raid.

In Washington, the U.S. State Department had no specific comment on the incident, citing the lack of details about what happened. Some officials suggested the administration of President George W. Bush did not want to stoke tensions further by taking sides between Israel and Syria.

The incident early Thursday came after a summer of building tensions that have fed worries of a military conflict erupting between Syria and Israel. Damascus accused Israel last month of seeking a pretext for war, and the Israelis are keeping a close watch on Syrian troop movements.

"How could a superpower call for the establishment of peace and send invitations to some countries to convene a peace conference at a time when it maintains silence over a clear violation of the simplest laws and international norms?" Tishrin said in its editorial on Saturday of the U.S. remaining silent.

The newspaper also criticized Arab countries for planning to attend the proposed conference. "How would they go to Bush's conference and how would they justify to their people shaking hands with those who kill Palestinians and Iraqis and threaten the Arabs' future with grave consequences?" it said.

The Arab League on Friday branded the reported violation of Syrian airspace by the Israel Air Force as unacceptable, saying that it called into question Israel's commitment to achieving regional peace.

"These unacceptable maneuvers reveal negative Israeli intentions toward current discussions to achieve peace in the Middle East," an Arab League statement quoted its secretary-general, Amr Moussa, as saying.

Meanwhile, a state-run Syrian newspaper warned Friday that the country possesses "the means to respond... so that it will deter Israel against proceeding with such unpredictable adventures."

A Syrian Army spokesman similarly said, "We warn the Israeli enemy government against this flagrant aggressive act, and retain the right to respond in an appropriate way."

"These violations add only tension to the region at a time when all parties should work on pacifying the situation, not making it worse," an Egyptian foreign ministry statement said.

Israel would give no details on the incident, of which Prime Minister Ehud Olmert denied all knowledge. "I don't know what you are talking about," Olmert said in response to a question on the issue from Haaretz, hours after his office and the Israel Defense Forces both said they refused to respond to Damascus' claims.

The IDF said it would not comment on the Syrian reports. "It is not our custom to respond to these kinds of reports," the IDF Spokesman's Office said in a statement soon after the incident was reported.

"Syria will not be drawn into an inconsequential stand-off in this unfavorable time and place," Syrian commentator Faiz a-Sayeg told Hezbollah-owned TV station Al-Manar after the incident. He added that Israel knows well that "today's Syria is very different from yesterday's Syria," especially after the Second Lebanon War. He advised Israeli leaders to reconsider their policy after the last war.

In an interview Sunday night with Haaretz, European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana said he saw no reason for any forthcoming military conflict between Israel and Syria.

Iran, which has strong relations with Syria and whose leader, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, repeatedly calls for Israel's destruction, blasted Israel on Thursday over Syria's claims, and accused Jerusalem of "spreading insecurity" in the Middle East.

"The aims of that... provocative move by the Zionist regime was to shift its domestic crisis into areas other than Palestine, spreading insecurity in the region and covering up its failure in the 33-day war against Lebanon," said Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini.
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'Turkey furious over alleged IAF foray'
By JPOST.COM STAFF

An unnamed Turkish official demanded explanations from Israel, Saturday, after fuel tanks allegedly dropped by Israel F-151 planes who were conducting a foray into Syrian airspace Wednesday overnight, were found on the Turkish Syrian border.

Syrian claims of the incident remained unconfirmed in Israel, which remained absolutely mum on the incident.

Earlier Saturday, the Syrian government mouthpiece Tishrin accused the US of encouraging Israel by keeping in line with its media silence and refusing to issue its own statement on the issue.

The Turkish paper Hurriyet published blurry photos of what it claimed were detachable fuel tanks of the Israeli planes. The tanks were found near the Turkey-Syria border.

Reportedly Turkey was demanding whether the Israeli planes also passed over its own airspace.

It should be noted that IAF jets regularly practice in Turkish airspace with Turkish consent, and that the Turkish air force conducts joint drills with the IAF and the American Air Force (USAF) on a regular basis.

Earlier Saturday, Tzahi Hanegbi, chairman of the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee told Israel Radio that "Israel and Syria don't have an interest in conflict, and the United States, along with Arab countries, are making sure not to cause unnecessary tension."

Hanegbi also responded to comments made Friday by Science, Culture and Sports Minister Ghaleb Majadle's - comments which marked the first official Israeli response since IAF jets flew over Syria on Thursday. Majadle said that IAF planes enter Syrian airspace on a daily basis, and that he did not believe the latest alleged incident would spark off a war.

"The minister should show more restraint with his words," Hanegbi said, adding that "it was unacceptable to speak to the media on matters unrelated to his office."

Majadle told the Nazareth-based A-Sinara newspaper that while he had no specific information about the latest alleged operation, it was likely that "the planes either entered Syrian airspace to take photographs or in error."

"All sides are interested in calming the situation," Hanegbi continued. "The IDF response was not at all aggressive. The Syrian media has dropped the issue. Russia and Iran responded to the incident out of obligation but didn't take the matter to the [United Nations] Security Council."

Hanegbi went on to say that Israel's silence regarding Thursday's incident was coordinated with the US. He added, however, that "Syria has recently invested unprecedented amounts of money on weapons deals, the likes of which we haven't seen since the fall of the former Soviet Union."

Earlier in the day an anonymous Israeli source reportedly told the Arab daily Al Arabiya that the IAF jets were on a mission to neutralize Russian-made surface-to-air missile (SAM) anti-aircraft batteries recently deployed by Syria along its Mediterranean coast.

According to Army Radio, the Israeli source did not specify the exact type of target, or its exact location.

This latest report surrounding the mysterious incident comes only a day after IDF Chief of General Staff Lt.-Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi said that the winner and loser of a future war will have to be made apparent.

"In any future conflict forced upon the state of Israel, there will be a need to ensure that it is known who lost and who won."

Ashkenazi made his comments during a meeting held with high-ranking reserve officers on Friday and made no connection between his statement and the latest fears surrounding a war with Syria.

Meanwhile, Arab countries continued denouncing the yet-unconfirmed IAF flight over Syria as unprovoked. The Arab League announced that the alleged overflight of IAF planes in Syrian airspace was intolerable, Army Radio reported.

Arab League chief Amr Moussa said that "the unbearable move" revealed negative Israeli intentions for the upcoming Middle East peace conference.

Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit said that Israel's so-called aerial violations overnight Wednesday added to the regional tension.

Also Friday, Syria accused Israel of jeopardizing the chances of success in the upcoming US-sponsored Middle East meeting.

Syrian Ambassador to the United Nations Bashar Ja'afari told Al-Jazeera that the alleged IAF operation came only a few hours after Arab League foreign ministers in Cairo had published a message of support for the meeting and had called for Syria to be invited.

A Syrian government newspaper warned that the country "possesses the means to respond ... so that it will deter Israel against proceeding with such unpredictable adventures."

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki called his Syrian counterpart Walid al-Moallem after the alleged over flight to offer support and condemn Israel's actions, Iran's official IRNA news agency reported Friday.

In Washington, the US State Department had no specific comment on the incident, citing the lack of details about what happened.

"I'd leave it up to the parties to describe what happened. We'll leave it to them to try and sort this out," deputy spokesman Tom Casey told reporters Thursday.
 
#5
Syrian hairy benders suck the big one?
 
#6
as lattakia, the northern syrian port where the russian navy is now deploying, is about 60 miles from cyprus, surely someone in cyprus, at a radar screen, observed the iaf over the med before turning east. XD
 
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'Advisors to Assad pressuring him to respond with force'

Advisors to Syrian President Bashar Assad are pressuring him to respond to the alleged IAF attack by "landing a blow to an Israeli target," the Kuwait-based Al-Jareeda reported Wednesday. According to the report, Israel targeted long-range missile batteries that were brought to Syria from Iran. The report said five IAF fighter jets carried out the attack.

Israel Radio quoted the Kuwaiti paper to the effect that the group advocating a military response is being spearheaded by Assad's brother in law, who has met in recent days with senior Hizbullah and Hamas officials in an effort to draw up an operation plan.

The Kuwaiti paper also reported that the Syrian army has begun drafting reservists from the armed corps, missile corps and anti-aircraft units, and quoted "sources in the know" who said the draft was a response to Israel raising its level of readiness in the north.

According to a report by The Nazareth-based al-Sinara newspaper Wednesday, the IAF targeted a joint Syrian-Iranian missile base in northern Syria. Reportedly, the Iranian-funded installation was razed to the ground.

The report claimed its information was gleaned from an "Israeli source."

An official in the Bush administration told the New York Times Wednesday that in recent days the IAF has flown over Syria several times in an attempt to gain intelligence on a number of suspected nuclear facilities Israel believes have been sponsored by North Korea.

"The Israelis think North Korea is selling to Iran and Syria what little they have left," the official told the Times, adding that the alleged strike had not necessarily provided evidence to confirm the intelligence.

Meanwhile, North Korea slammed Israel for the alleged air strike, calling it a "dangerous provocation" aimed at breaching Syria's sovereignty and upsetting peace and security in the region.

"North Korea harshly condemns the said incursion and expresses solidarity and support of the Syrian nation in its righteous cause of safeguarding national security and peace in the region."

Also on Wednesday, the Lebanese daily Almustakbal reported that since the alleged IAF foray over Syria last week there have been severe disturbances in Lebanese communications systems and cellular frequencies.

On Tuesday, CNN reported that the IAF had likely targeted weaponry delivered to Syria that was possibly intended for use by Hizbullah.

CNN said the operation involved ground forces and that the aerial strike left "a great hole in the desert." Although it did not name a specific source, the network cited "US government officials." The jets have been identified by the Turkish authorities as IAF F15Is, Israel's long-range bomber, after fuel tanks were found in Turkish territory.

A US military official said the IAF planes penetrated "deep into Syria" to carry out an air strike that succeeded in hitting its target. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because it was an intelligence issue, said he did not know what that target was.

Syria has called the incursion a "hostile act," but has been largely silent on the details of what happened. Israeli officials have refused to comment
 
#8
We could pacify the whole region by decapitating one of the despotic regimes and building a model western-style democracy, using the considerable mineral wealth of the area. Popular democratic capitalism would spread throughout the Middle East, guaranteeing Israeli security and providing considerable investment opportunities for western firms.

What do you think? Its got to be worth a go. We just need to find a regime that fits the bill - perhaps one we had a bit of gripe with some time ago - and come up with a plausible pretext for military action.
 
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low-profile
as lattakia, the northern syrian port where the russian navy is now deploying, is about 60 miles from cyprus, surely someone in cyprus, at a radar screen, observed the iaf over the med before turning east.
Not quite . When the Cypriots tried to set up their new AA missile system the Turks stated to the effect

Turn it on, its a decleration of war.

Cypriots never even got the AA after that
 
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old_bloke said:
low-profile
as lattakia, the northern syrian port where the russian navy is now deploying, is about 60 miles from cyprus, surely someone in cyprus, at a radar screen, observed the iaf over the med before turning east.
Not quite . When the Cypriots tried to set up their new AA missile system the Turks stated to the effect

Turn it on, its a decleration of war.

Cypriots never even got the AA after that
I think he meant that little RAF place on Mount Troodos.
 
#12
Dilfor said:
We could pacify the whole region by decapitating one of the despotic regimes and building a model western-style democracy, using the considerable mineral wealth of the area. Popular democratic capitalism would spread throughout the Middle East, guaranteeing Israeli security and providing considerable investment opportunities for western firms.

What do you think? Its got to be worth a go. We just need to find a regime that fits the bill - perhaps one we had a bit of gripe with some time ago - and come up with a plausible pretext for military action.
Been on the sherry have we?

Thats never going to happen because both Great and Little Satan fully understand that no Assad = Islamist takeover.
 
#13
Taz_786 said:
Dilfor said:
We could pacify the whole region by decapitating one of the despotic regimes and building a model western-style democracy, using the considerable mineral wealth of the area. Popular democratic capitalism would spread throughout the Middle East, guaranteeing Israeli security and providing considerable investment opportunities for western firms.

What do you think? Its got to be worth a go. We just need to find a regime that fits the bill - perhaps one we had a bit of gripe with some time ago - and come up with a plausible pretext for military action.
Been on the sherry have we?

Thats never going to happen because both Great and Little Satan fully understand that no Assad = Islamist takeover.
Well after our success in Iraq they do now. Although I think he was being a little tongue in cheek there. :twisted:
 
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#14
Taz_786 said:
Dilfor said:
We could pacify the whole region by decapitating one of the despotic regimes and building a model western-style democracy, using the considerable mineral wealth of the area. Popular democratic capitalism would spread throughout the Middle East, guaranteeing Israeli security and providing considerable investment opportunities for western firms.

What do you think? Its got to be worth a go. We just need to find a regime that fits the bill - perhaps one we had a bit of gripe with some time ago - and come up with a plausible pretext for military action.
Been on the sherry have we?

Thats never going to happen because both Great and Little Satan fully understand that no Assad = Islamist takeover.
Don't be silly;

Assad is obviously in cahoots with Al Q.

And where did Saddam's WMD's go?

And Assad is in the same political party as Saddam.

I think Dilfor's analysis is fully in line with the think tanks on The Hill...
 
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benjaminw1 said:
Taz_786 said:
Dilfor said:
We could pacify the whole region by decapitating one of the despotic regimes and building a model western-style democracy, using the considerable mineral wealth of the area. Popular democratic capitalism would spread throughout the Middle East, guaranteeing Israeli security and providing considerable investment opportunities for western firms.

What do you think? Its got to be worth a go. We just need to find a regime that fits the bill - perhaps one we had a bit of gripe with some time ago - and come up with a plausible pretext for military action.
Been on the sherry have we?

Thats never going to happen because both Great and Little Satan fully understand that no Assad = Islamist takeover.
Don't be silly;

Assad is obviously in cahoots with Al Q.

And where did Saddam's WMD's go?

And Assad is in the same political party as Saddam.

I think Dilfor's analysis is fully in line with the think tanks on The Hill...
Well, if at once you don't succeed........
 
#17
Who are the Great and Little Satan? are they like Little and Large, Bert and Ernie, Lorrel and Hardy?

I thought Syria was playing ball with Israel or does Syria still want to destablise Lebonen?
 
#18
old_bloke said:
low-profile
as lattakia, the northern syrian port where the russian navy is now deploying, is about 60 miles from cyprus, surely someone in cyprus, at a radar screen, observed the iaf over the med before turning east.
Not quite . When the Cypriots tried to set up their new AA missile system the Turks stated to the effect

Turn it on, its a decleration of war.

Cypriots never even got the AA after that
Sorry mate, thats not quite true, anymore, apparently....
SP
 
#19
LordVonHarley said:
Who are the Great and Little Satan? are they like Little and Large, Bert and Ernie, Lorrel and Hardy?

I thought Syria was playing ball with Israel or does Syria still want to destablise Lebonen?

Syria is still technically at war with Israel.
 
#20
Taz_786 said:
Been on the sherry have we?

Thats never going to happen because both Great and Little Satan fully understand that no Assad = Islamist takeover.
You've been gobbing off in the last couple of days.
 

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