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Islamic sharia courts in Britain are now legally binding

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Islamic sharia courts in Britain are now 'legally binding'


Islamic sharia law courts in Britain are exploiting a little-known legal clause to make their verdicts officially binding under UK law in cases including divorce, financial disputes and even domestic violence.


A new network of courts in five major cities is hearing cases where Muslims involved agree to be bound by traditional sharia law, and under the 1996 Arbitration Act the court's decisions can then be enforced by the county courts or the High Court.

Officials behind the new system claim to have dealt with more than 100 cases since last summer, including six involving domestic violence which is a criminal rather than civil offence, and said they hoped to take over growing numbers of 'smaller' criminal cases in future.
If I remember correctly the muslims were saying a while ago that any fears that sharia law would become or interfere with British Law were unfounded...............
 

Biped

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So, if a Muslim wants to sue me, or accuse me of an offense under Sharia law, maybe he can insist the case is heard in a sharia court rather than a British court - maybe that'll be the next thing.
 
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Biped said:
So, if a Muslim wants to sue me, or accuse me of an offense under Sharia law, maybe he can insist the case is heard in a sharia court rather than a British court - maybe that'll be the next thing.
The way I understand it is that any 'arbitration' is legally binding if both parties agree to it being. The only court of law that is legally binding if one party disagrees is the National system.

This is the same for any legal arbitration, so you and I have a legal dispute and ask MDN to provide an arbritation service then that is legally binding (so long as it doesn't break any national laws).

Basically another non-story. Although moving towards a story if it gets momentum.

S_R

p.s. I'm not a lawer and wait to be corrected by those more learned than I.
 
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None story.

Just flicked through the arbitration act HERE.

sharia courts could say whatever the hell they want, they still have to fullfil line 2

General principles The provisions of this Part are founded on the following principles, and shall be construed accordingly—
(a) the object of arbitration is to obtain the fair resolution of disputes by an impartial tribunal without unnecessary delay or expense;
(b) the parties should be free to agree how their disputes are resolved, subject only to such safeguards as are necessary in the public interest;
(c) in matters governed by this Part the court should not intervene except as provided by this Part.
Can't see even our Criminal Protection Service agreeing that a stoning, beheading or enforced apology from a victim of Domestic Crime would be "in the public interest" Shariah courts have no legal authority to call anyone to them in the first place, so trying to use this on a none muslime is a none starter as well.
 
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Biped said:
So, if a Muslim wants to sue me, or accuse me of an offense under Sharia law, maybe he can insist the case is heard in a sharia court rather than a British court - maybe that'll be the next thing.
Or maybe, just maybe, they will run like the Jewish and Christian courts have run in this country for over a century - but thats hardly worth getting the outrage bus first paraded for is it
 
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So it isn't really a court then but a binding arbitration. What I mean is that both parties have agree to be bound by the decision before the process starts and it is not forced on anyone to be involved.

That is not a court. Agreement to abide by a court decision is not elective, it is enforced.
 
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Sympathetic_Reaction said:
Basically another non-story. Although moving towards a story if it gets momentum.

S_R

p.s. I'm not a lawer and wait to be corrected by those more learned than I.
Except that the sharia courts are now dealing with criminal law and exploiting a legal loophole to do so.
 
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squiffy_parsons said:
Sympathetic_Reaction said:
Basically another non-story. Although moving towards a story if it gets momentum.

S_R

p.s. I'm not a lawer and wait to be corrected by those more learned than I.
Except that the sharia courts are now dealing with criminal law and exploiting a legal loophole to do so.
No more so than "Judge Judy".
 
#12
squiffy_parsons said:
Except that the sharia courts are now dealing with criminal law and exploiting a legal loophole to do so.
According to an anonymous source you provide no link to? Maybe its not happened at all. If however you could provide evidence of this.....
 
#13
They can deal with all they want.

I could set up a tent in my garden, call it "Aunty Stellas Wonderful Emporium Of Justice" and dish out arbitrary (Death, of course) sentences.

Wouldn't mean jack sh1t though unless both the victim and perpetrator agreed to be legally bound by my pre determined death sentence.

And even then if it went to a REAL Court they would immediatley say that my death sentence by Ant Eater bites was not in the Public Interest.

If these idiots are stupid enough to agree to be bound by a sharia "courts" decisions in the first place, then they deserve all the buckets of stupid that they get.
 
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squiffy_parsons said:
Sympathetic_Reaction said:
Basically another non-story. Although moving towards a story if it gets momentum.

S_R

p.s. I'm not a lawer and wait to be corrected by those more learned than I.
Except that the sharia courts are now dealing with criminal law and exploiting a legal loophole to do so.
No still a non-story. You can use the civil court to deal with a criminal matter, as has been done with several high profile cases where the criminal court failed to get a conviction and the claimants took it to civil court to get compensation.

The criminal matter is still a criminal matter, if it hasn't been reported to the police then the Police/CPS can still investigate and charge under their own powers, but will struggle to get a conviction if the victim won't press charges.

Again non-story.

S_R
 
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Sympathetic_Reaction said:
squiffy_parsons said:
Sympathetic_Reaction said:
Basically another non-story. Although moving towards a story if it gets momentum.

S_R

p.s. I'm not a lawer and wait to be corrected by those more learned than I.
Except that the sharia courts are now dealing with criminal law and exploiting a legal loophole to do so.
No still a non-story. You can use the civil court to deal with a criminal matter, as has been done with several high profile cases where the criminal court failed to get a conviction and the claimants took it to civil court to get compensation.

The criminal matter is still a criminal matter, if it hasn't been reported to the police then the Police/CPS can still investigate and charge under their own powers, but will struggle to get a conviction if the victim won't press charges.

Again non-story.

S_R
Your not really getting this outrage thing are you SR
 
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drain_sniffer said:
Your not really getting this outrage thing are you SR
Sorry...my fault...wrong head on this morning.

Okay you horrible lot I want everyone on parade in 10 minutes CEFO and placards for inspection. The Outrage Bus will be leaving within the hour (along with a bus full of student nurses) I expect everyone to be screaming for the blood of a little known politician and several members of the Liarbour Party as they are the scum that have let our civil rights and countries history be ridden over by a bunch of towel heads.

Better?

S_R
 
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drain_sniffer said:
squiffy_parsons said:
Except that the sharia courts are now dealing with criminal law and exploiting a legal loophole to do so.
According to an anonymous source you provide no link to? Maybe its not happened at all. If however you could provide evidence of this.....
Yup I made it all up. Nothing to worry about then.

Do you think that sharia law deals with domestic violence as well as the specialist trained domestic violence units within the Police ?

Do you think that sharia law will deal as fairly as british law ? are the muslim women really getting any choice in whether their domestic violence is heard under muslim or british law ?

nah.... you're right non story..........
 
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Buys ticket for outrage bus....
Erm I remember some raggy head bellend crying on tv that they want equal rights and want to be "intergrated" into OUR suciety!

Doesnt that mean (When in rome?)
and equal means the same?? so everyone gets the same sized pie?
Oohh ooh I must run over to Bradford then on to leeds and then to manchester and birmingham to tell the many MUSLIM COMUNITIES about this..
and not forget to tell the white community or the purely white* schools..what? pardon? they dont exist? ahh yeh cos isnt that descrimination? or racism? hmmmmm I'm confused mr chogie please help me understand.. :?
 

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