Is Your Motor Cloned?

Cloning a vehicles registration plate is nothing new. Many a time, from years ago, I often saw car transporters with a full load of part used cars with black tape covering some or all of the plate in order to combat this very problem.

I often wondered why they did that.

Well well well, every day's a school day. :)
 

Slime

LE
How easy is it to get hold of new number plates now?
I had to replace my rear plate a few years ago and went down to Halfords for it.
I had to take all my registration documents to prove I was the registered keeper before they`d make one.

I suppose the crims have their ways nowadays.

You are supposed to take all your docs if having one made up. Im in and out of motor factors often enough that I can just tell the the number over the phone and pick it up later.
Plenty have plates made up from online companies, and if the plate is a 'show plate' its super simple to get anything made up without any docs.
Bare flexible plates and individual letters/numbers can also be bought, but with the modern dealer tradition of fixing plates with double sided tape its quicker and cheaper to just a pull a set off a car the thief passes if they fancy stealing petrol or just having temporary plates to commit a crime.
 

Slime

LE
I often wondered why they did that.

Well well well, every day's a school day. :)

Its not the only reason. Whether on a transporter (especially if it has a named scrap yard on as opposed to the police pound) or in for sale ads.
While it stops easy cloning it can also help hide the cars past from potential buyers before they actually view the car.
With the reg number a buyer can look up the cars previous MOT history as well as whether it has an MOT etc.
With the reg number a potential cloner can pretend they want to have a viewing, that way they will get the owners name and address as well as reg number just in case they get stopped while the cloned plates are on.

Sorry, had to edit as I missed some bits out :)
 
Really common in some ethnic communities

Several members of the same family will buy the same model and colour car
Put identical number plates on them and then all of them are covered by one set of insurance MOT and road tax

Because they are all related and operating in concert there is little chance of them getting caught

There needs to be a major similtanious police operation to check vehicles and their occupants at roadblocks around the country.

You can bet there are a lot of ethnics and illegal immigrants driving around in vehicles you describe and on licences that are not theirs.
 
ISTR something from one of those cop programmes on telly that they can be here for a year but after that have to register and get uk plates etc. So doubtless every 11 months, Pavel pops home and comes back in his brother's car...

I thought it was 3 months. A day trip to Calais and the next 3 months starts again.
 
I think it be taken for granted there are no shortage of corrupt employees in the DVLA more than willing to sell vehicle details for the right price.
 
I got a private plate made up for my bike over t'web. Eventually abandoned the site I was using and went for one from a company in Manchester as I could tick a box and say I'd turn up with the documents and collect. But did notice plenty of places where I could tick a box and say it was a show plate and no docs required. The difference seemed to be that the show plate wouldn't have the 4mm BSXXX number in the corner...
 
How easy is it to get hold of new number plates now?
I had to replace my rear plate a few years ago and went down to Halfords for it.
I had to take all my registration documents to prove I was the registered keeper before they`d make one.

I suppose the crims have their ways nowadays.

Just Google vehicle number plates. I did it this afternoon and could have bought a set (front and rear) for £20 plus the postage. I don't know where they are actually made but it seems some people are driving a coach and horses through the regulations requiring you to provide documentation proving ownership of the vehicle.

Even if you took internet availability out of the equation, I also expect plenty of people will have other sources where they can bung someone a few quid and get what they need.
 

Joshua Slocum

LE
Book Reviewer
How easy is it to get hold of new number plates now?
I had to replace my rear plate a few years ago and went down to Halfords for it.
I had to take all my registration documents to prove I was the registered keeper before they`d make one.

I suppose the crims have their ways nowadays.
Ebay
Show plates
 
Probably are thousands of people doing it , but not as thick as mince to use the reg of a vehicle thats local.

I don't think VRNs have been localised for some years...
 

verticalgyro

MIA
DirtyBAT
I had somebody nick the plates off my car, fill up with petrol round the corner and drive off without paying a few months ago. Bastards!

I remember a guy at 5X who borrowed the plates off another blue Mk3 Escort on the car park every time he went to fill up and drive off without paying.

When I say every time, it was about three times until Hampshire and the Monkeys got their act together and pinged him.
 
German and Polish cars drive the local parking plods round me batty. They hate them.
When I can back from Germany I was told I had three working days to sort my cars out, how come EU nationals are not paying road tax?
 
Regarding the taped up plates on transporters.
It has nothing to do with hiding the registration plate from would be cloners although it does not help them. Its done to stop the often unregistered vehicles being pinged on ANPR cameras and getting flagged up as being on the road when they are SORN or not registered at all.
 
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I don't think VRNs have been localised for some years...
No they obviously just copied the ref of a van they had seen locally which is idiotic. Idiotic when you can see images of thousands of others which you will have a much less of a chance if bumping into.
 
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