Is vetting as strict for a regular soldier as an officer?

Brotherton Lad

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Thanks. Think thats what I will aim to do. Just have to "explain" to the folks about why I spent those years at uni to join as an ordinary soldier.

The Army is very good at taking people thought to be bad by civilians, accepting them at face value and turning them into what they would like to be. It's been doing it for several centuries and so there's no need for you to explain anything to anybody. It's a two way street, by the way.

Besides, there are plenty of soldiers with degrees in specialised parts of the Army.
 
Spent convictions should be declared and will be considered along with everything else you as an idividual offer
And there lies the reason a bag of shit is coming the Army's way, unfortunately.

A bloke recently joined the Navy, left during training and convinced his newly-conned partner to leave with him.

The guy was a plausible con artist and convinced Miss Gullible he had joined the Navy "under cover" to check all aspects of training. Yeah, right.

He quit at week six, as did she, and moved with her into her parent's house, whereupon things started to go missing. He was booted out and too late, she realised the guy was just a common or garden thief.

He then applied to join the RAF and was sent packing. Still under police investigation, pending prosecution, he applied to the Army. Capita accepted him, eager to increase their recruiting figures, whilst knowing his history.

You couldn't make it up. Well, he could, to be fair. ;)
 

Brotherton Lad

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Usual stuff -running, football, gym, rugby and "socialising"

Fitness, team sports and getting on with others are all part of the system. Which particular part of the Army takes your fancy?
 

Sean23

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And there lies the reason a bag of shit is coming the Army's way, unfortunately.
We all make mistakes and do stupid stuff when we are young. I dint think it would be fair if I couldnt join just because I have a criminal record.

Its already stopped me from being ab Officer.
 

Brotherton Lad

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Mainly Infantry to be honest
I did 22 years Commissioned service in the Infantry and my son is angling for a Commission next year, also in the Infantry.

Now, a Pte soldier with a degree in the Infantry would be very much an outlier in this day and age (less so during WW2 and National Service, so not unprecedented). If you're currently stuck on the officer entry may I suggest a soldier entry into one of the more specialist parts of the Army leaving you an option to commission into whatever takes your fancy at a later date?
 

Brotherton Lad

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We all make mistakes and do stupid stuff when we are young. I dint think it would be fair if I couldnt join just because I have a criminal record.

Its already stopped me from being ab Officer.
Haven't we all? Some of us just didn't get caught.

Serious point, you are obviously keen and decent so please crack on.
 
I did 22 years Commissioned service in the Infantry and my son is angling for a Commission next year, also in the Infantry.

Now, a Pte soldier with a degree in the Infantry would be very much an outlier in this day and age (less so during WW2 and National Service, so not unprecedented). If you're currently stuck on the officer entry may I suggest a soldier entry into one of the more specialist parts of the Army leaving you an option to commission into whatever takes your fancy at a later date?

Int Corps.


R Signals.
 
We all make mistakes and do stupid stuff when we are young. I dint think it would be fair if I couldnt join just because I have a criminal record.

Its already stopped me from being ab Officer.
Totally agree, that's why there's a Rehahbilitation of Offenders Act so that once a penalty is spent, it's counted as though it never happened. Similarly we shouldn't be rewarding or discounting deliquency immediately if immaturity is attributed.
 

Brotherton Lad

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Two words:

Capita.



Shambles.
We are currently in that drama with our son. To be fair to Capita and what you expect of out-sourced Government contracts (essentially a foreseeable drama) there is also 'a computer says no issue' on the medical questions, which I'd describe as an over-sensitive duty of care approach (but I'm neither a medic nor a lawyer). This is understood at base and is being worked on to the best of my understanding.
 
We are currently in that drama with our son. To be fair to Capita and what you expect of out-sourced Government contracts (essentially a foreseeable drama) there is also 'a computer says no issue' on the medical questions, which I'd describe as an over-sensitive duty of care approach (but I'm neither a medic nor a lawyer). This is understood at base and is being worked on to the best of my understanding.

I hope so. I'm nearly 50 and was trying to join the Yeomanry.

Knocked back with no reasonable explanation by what sounded like an unholy alliance between Alan B'Stard, a Commodore 64 and an underpaid spotty 19 year old call handler.
 

Brotherton Lad

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I hope so. I'm nearly 50 and was trying to join the Yeomanry.

Knocked back with no reasonable explanation by what sounded like an unholy alliance between Alan B'Stard, a Commodore 64 and an underpaid spotty 19 year old call handler.
I hope so, too. I'm an interested bystander (because of my son) and spectator (because between the LHCO and me we have almost half a century of service) being reasonably close to the grindstone, so all I can say is that changes are being made.
 

Sean23

Swinger
I did 22 years Commissioned service in the Infantry and my son is angling for a Commission next year, also in the Infantry.

Now, a Pte soldier with a degree in the Infantry would be very much an outlier in this day and age (less so during WW2 and National Service, so not unprecedented). If you're currently stuck on the officer entry may I suggest a soldier entry into one of the more specialist parts of the Army leaving you an option to commission into whatever takes your fancy at a later date?
That makes sense I suppose, I was gutted when I failed the Officer process and am only seriously thinking about my other options. Have an appointment with Careers next week.

I did the degree to keep my family happy. Mt Dad is an accountant and doesnt like me going for the Army but finance is not for me
 

Brotherton Lad

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That makes sense I suppose, I was gutted when I failed the Officer process and am only seriously thinking about my other options. Have an appointment with Careers next week.

I did the degree to keep my family happy. Mt Dad is an accountant and doesnt like me going for the Army but finance is not for me
Ah. It's a very personal choice to do with your own values and ambitions. An old fart on the internet is not your salvation, I'm afraid.

ETA. Drop me a PM if you're local to the SE of England. (I feel the need to add I'm very happily married, just in case you were wondering).
 
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