Is this too shocking to discuss on this forum?

#2
Why don't they put a max price on a pint, or reduce the tax for pubs? I'm fed up with spending a fortune on the lash
 
#4
Tescos are not stupid, at the moment they sell only certain lines as loss leaders to get the punters in, with a fixed price per unit they would drop the price on all their booze lines,the cheap beer,cider and lager would rise in price but the more expensive stuff would probable come down causing more sales, they are in a win ,win situation
 
#5
The supermarkets raise the prices because the "Government say so". They continue to pay the suppliers the same price= more profit. Or is that too simple?
 
#6
tropper66 said:
Tescos are not stupid, at the moment they sell only certain lines as loss leaders to get the punters in, with a fixed price per unit they would drop the price on all their booze lines,the cheap beer,cider and lager would rise in price but the more expensive stuff would probable come down causing more sales, they are in a win ,win situation
I am just guesstimating here - but if a can of normal strength lager (2.2 units ish) costs £1, that works at at a bit over 40p per unit. A bottle of Vodka (containing what 20 units?) is a tenner - that is 50p per unit.

The differentials aren't all that wide anyway, are they? If you made the minimum price 50p per unit, then they couldn't drop the value of voddie, but would have to raise the value of beer.

Whatever the actual numbers are, it is possible to achieve a correct minimum price somewhere, isn't it?
 
#7
smudge67 said:
Why don't they put a max price on a pint, or reduce the tax for pubs? I'm fed up with spending a fortune on the lash

Try minesweeping, It will say you a ton of cash.
 
#8
DemsMaShoes said:
The supermarkets raise the prices because the "Government say so". They continue to pay the suppliers the same price= more profit. Or is that too simple?
It depends - the government could apply the minimum price at the suppliers, instead of at the retailers.
 
#9
I brew my own and then drink it in my sh*d crying and shouting at spiders.

This is all a clever ConDem ploy.
Traditionally, dope has been more expensive that booze.
By putting the price of booze up, they are priming the market for the legallisation and taxation of hash.

Look at the way Ant (Clegg) and Dec (Cameron) eyes were all weird when they emerged from number 10 on that first press conference.
Did no-one see all the pizzas that were delivered later on?

Let's face it, the only way out of this recession is to legalise everything (drugs, prostitution, murder, theft, etc) and then tax it.

"Excuse me sir, could I see your rape licence please?"

Simples.

Minor spelling edit 'cos I'm obviously stoned.
 
#10
freedomman said:
I brew my own and then drink it in my sh*d crying and shouting at spiders.

This is all a clever ConDem ploy.
Traditionally, dope has been more expensive that booze.
By putting the price of booze up, they are priming the market for the legallisation and taxation of hash.

Look at the way Ant (Clegg) and Dec (Cameron) eyes were all weird when they emerged from number 10 on that first press conference.
Did no-one see all the pizzas that were delivered later on?

Let's face it, the only way out of this recession is to legaglise everything (drugs, prostitution, murder, theft, etc) and then tax it.

"Excuse me sir, could I see your rape licence please?"

Simples.
Sir,

You are a wit. My warmest regards for brightening my Friday morning.

Yours humbly,

Bazzinho
 
#11
Much wailing from those who care about such things but Treasury does not give a rats, in fact have a contrary view: the more cheap swill Tesco etc shift as loss leaders, the more they get in Excise Duty.

Same with road fuel: biggest loser from decline in sales of late thanks to more fuel efficient cars, less motors on road and high fuel cost is HM Treasury.
 
#12
Tesco could do this right away if they had social responsibility and wanted to. They currently sell booze at a price lower than they actually pay. They know they will make more money as the punter tops up their trolley with mixers, snacks and ready-meals.

They do the same with some basics like milk. They want to get the government to do their dirty work because they will then squeeze the suppliers.
 
#13
Tescos are only spouting this shite cos they realise the party is over and we actually have a government who look like they are going to do something about it.Shame so many pubs have fallen by the wayside largely due to the farcial booze pricing in super markets.
 
#14
Herrumph said:
Tesco could do this right away if they had social responsibility and wanted to. They currently sell booze at a price lower than they actually pay. They know they will make more money as the punter tops up their trolley with mixers, snacks and ready-meals.

They do the same with some basics like milk. They want to get the government to do their dirty work because they will then squeeze the suppliers.
HOW DARE YOU! Are you saying that the market is not always the most appropriate mechanism for determining price? A plague on your house, you commie ba$tard.
 
#15
Bazzinho1977 said:
tropper66 said:
Tescos are not stupid, at the moment they sell only certain lines as loss leaders to get the punters in, with a fixed price per unit they would drop the price on all their booze lines,the cheap beer,cider and lager would rise in price but the more expensive stuff would probable come down causing more sales, they are in a win ,win situation
I am just guesstimating here - but if a can of normal strength lager (2.2 units ish) costs £1, that works at at a bit over 40p per unit. A bottle of Vodka (containing what 20 units?) is a tenner - that is 50p per unit.

The differentials aren't all that wide anyway, are they? If you made the minimum price 50p per unit, then they couldn't drop the value of voddie, but would have to raise the value of beer.

Whatever the actual numbers are, it is possible to achieve a correct minimum price somewhere, isn't it?
You can get a bottle of Tesco's Vodka/RUM for less than £8, thats a 70cl bottle with 26.3 units thats 30 pence a unit, some of their beers are going for as little as 12.1p per 100ml
 
#16
tropper66 said:
Bazzinho1977 said:
tropper66 said:
Tescos are not stupid, at the moment they sell only certain lines as loss leaders to get the punters in, with a fixed price per unit they would drop the price on all their booze lines,the cheap beer,cider and lager would rise in price but the more expensive stuff would probable come down causing more sales, they are in a win ,win situation
I am just guesstimating here - but if a can of normal strength lager (2.2 units ish) costs £1, that works at at a bit over 40p per unit. A bottle of Vodka (containing what 20 units?) is a tenner - that is 50p per unit.

The differentials aren't all that wide anyway, are they? If you made the minimum price 50p per unit, then they couldn't drop the value of voddie, but would have to raise the value of beer.

Whatever the actual numbers are, it is possible to achieve a correct minimum price somewhere, isn't it?
You can get a bottle of Tesco's Vodka/RUM for less than £8, thats a 70cl bottle with 26.3 units thats 30 pence a unit, some of their beers are going for as little as 12.1p per 100ml
Uh-huh. Which kind of contradicts your original argument - if we put the minimum price at 40p then all of the alcohol would go up, see? Apart from the poncey brands, but people will pay a premium for them anyway.

As an aside: The crap that Tesco's sell should not be referred to as "Rum". It should be "vaguely rum flavoured alcoholic brown liquid".
 
#17
fatsplasher said:
Tescos are only spouting this shite cos they realise the party is over and we actually have a government who look like they are going to do something about it.Shame so many pubs have fallen by the wayside largely due to the farcial booze pricing in super markets.
...and the smoking ban, duty rates for beer, letting the PubCos behave in the way they do & all sorts.

I drive to play Touch Rugby on a regular basis through a pretty well off part of the country. Two pubs (one idyllic country location, one just on edge of the shopping district of a medium sized town) have closed in the last couple of months.

We face a crisis here in that something uniquely British & which is of tremendous value, especially in rural areas, is being destroyed. I don't believe this is through malice, just failing to listen to millions of normal, sensible drinkers.

A well-run pub actually solves a lot of issues. As a youth we all drank under age in local boozers, but the adults in them & the landlords used to make sure we didn't go over the top. The police knew what was going on but took no action.

Now, instead of us drinking pretty weak beer in a regulated environment & going home quietly, the local yoof get tanked up on illicit spirits & alcopops & smash stuff up because no one is watching. I know this because when I take MasterPlume out to play in the local recreation ground all the hard standing is covered in broken glass & it sure as hell isn't the village grown-ups who've left the wreckage...
 
#18
CaptainPlume said:
fatsplasher said:
Tescos are only spouting this shite cos they realise the party is over and we actually have a government who look like they are going to do something about it.Shame so many pubs have fallen by the wayside largely due to the farcial booze pricing in super markets.
...and the smoking ban, duty rates for beer, letting the PubCos behave in the way they do & all sorts.

I drive to play Touch Rugby on a regular basis through a pretty well off part of the country. Two pubs (one idyllic country location, one just on edge of the shopping district of a medium sized town) have closed in the last couple of months.

We face a crisis here in that something uniquely British & which is of tremendous value, especially in rural areas, is being destroyed. I don't believe this is through malice, just failing to listen to millions of normal, sensible drinkers.

A well-run pub actually solves a lot of issues. As a youth we all drank under age in local boozers, but the adults in them & the landlords used to make sure we didn't go over the top. The police knew what was going on but took no action.

Now, instead of us drinking pretty weak beer in a regulated environment & going home quietly, the local yoof get tanked up on illicit spirits & alcopops & smash stuff up because no one is watching. I know this because when I take MasterPlume out to play in the local recreation ground all the hard standing is covered in broken glass & it sure as hell isn't the village grown-ups who've left the wreckage...
I would suggest the biggest amongst these is the behaviour of the PubCos. THis really is an area the government need to sort out - because the industry refuses to sort itself out to the detriment of the humble pub.
 
#19
Bazzinho1977 said:
tropper66 said:
Bazzinho1977 said:
tropper66 said:
Tescos are not stupid, at the moment they sell only certain lines as loss leaders to get the punters in, with a fixed price per unit they would drop the price on all their booze lines,the cheap beer,cider and lager would rise in price but the more expensive stuff would probable come down causing more sales, they are in a win ,win situation
I am just guesstimating here - but if a can of normal strength lager (2.2 units ish) costs £1, that works at at a bit over 40p per unit. A bottle of Vodka (containing what 20 units?) is a tenner - that is 50p per unit.

The differentials aren't all that wide anyway, are they? If you made the minimum price 50p per unit, then they couldn't drop the value of voddie, but would have to raise the value of beer.

Whatever the actual numbers are, it is possible to achieve a correct minimum price somewhere, isn't it?
You can get a bottle of Tesco's Vodka/RUM for less than £8, thats a 70cl bottle with 26.3 units thats 30 pence a unit, some of their beers are going for as little as 12.1p per 100ml
Uh-huh. Which kind of contradicts your original argument - if we put the minimum price at 40p then all of the alcohol would go up, see? Apart from the poncey brands, but people will pay a premium for them anyway.

As an aside: The crap that Tesco's sell should not be referred to as "Rum". It should be "vaguely rum flavoured alcoholic brown liquid".
Very true, I would not wash my feet in it,but they sell shed loads of the stuff to the stupid chav batstewards in the Tesco Extra over the road from my house, by the way I'm not talking crap here I had a chat with one of the mangers about this on my way back from walking the dogs this morning, I'm just saying what he said, at 7.30 there were chavs buying their full allowance of six cases of Carling for the weekend,30x 440ml cans for £16
 
#20
tropper66 said:
Very true, I would not wash my feet in it,but they sell shed loads of the stuff to the stupid chav batstewards in the Tesco Extra over the road from my house, by the way I'm not talking crap here I had a chat with one of the mangers about this on my way back from walking the dogs this morning, I'm just saying what he said, at 7.30 there were chavs buying their full allowance of six cases of Carling for the weekend,30x 440ml cans for £16
Unfortunately, the reason this is hard to get political traction on is that the middle classes would want minimum prices on everything, apart from wines, premium brands and "real ales" in a bottle at the supermarket.

This suggestion has a probability of upsetting middle england - and heaven forbid we should do that.
 

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