Is this legal? (Ebay again)

#3
Reminds me of those tw@ts in Belgium who flogged FNs to PIRA having stoll them one piece at a time, so on that basis I'd say no!

Quick call to plod on the matter me thinks...
 
#4
"parts have been suitibly deactivated"

The only crime here is the fact that someone want to pay £150 for this junk.


msr
 
#6
I remember being told once that it is the rear trigger mechanism that is the most important part of the SA80 everything else (whilst important ) is not considered serious if lost (By civ pol).
However it would be intresting to find out where he got it from, Its not as if the SA80 is the kind of rifle thats sells on the international arms market.
 
#7
I believe the legislation states "parts integral to the operation" of the firearm are also considered a firearm. Therefore this item is illegal but the plod would have to be a walt or ex-forces to know this is.

NY
 

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#8
msr said:
The only crime here is the starting price!

msr
And the table cover
 
#10
He says they were not issued but in the picture there is a part(In bag) with a demand number on it which is P class, Also there is a Pistol Sear spring. Somethings not right here. :?
 

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#11
As said before in previous threads the green slime are (or so they say) all over this sort of caper and said seller will being watched by MI Bn and RMP et the feds, however it look like a load of old crud to me and the armourer where I work regularly bins shite of this nature where I dunno (backloaded REME bods?)
 
#12
3milesniper said:
As said before in previous threads the green slime are (or so they say) all over this sort of caper and said seller will being watched by MI Bn and RMP et the feds, however it look like a load of old crud to me and the armourer where I work regularly bins shite of this nature where I dunno (backloaded REME bods?)
Its all marked up and backloaded to Donington for special disposal.
 
#13
Quote PSNI:

What is a Firearm?

The term "firearm" is defined as a lethal barrelled weapon of any description from which any shot, bullet or other missile can be discharged and includes:

(a)any prohibited weapon, whether it is such a lethal weapon or not; and

(b)any component part of such a lethal or prohibited weapon; and

(c)any accessory to any such weapon designed or adapted to diminish the noise or flash caused by firing the weapon.

“Component Part” in relation to a firearm means –

a)any barrel, chamber or cylinder;

b)any frame, action, body or receiver;

c)any breech block, bolt or other mechanism for containing the pressure of discharge at the rear of the chamber;

d)any part of a firearm which directly bears the pressure caused by firing; and

e)any magazine;



If magazines are firearms then should they not be stored in an armoury? Soldiers would therefore be committing an offence when they take them back to the block. I believe the PSNI may have misinterpreted the leggislation.
 
#14
When commencing Harvest operations in Bosnia, we had to confiscate all weapon associated parts including wooden stocks etc, this was because they were for ex military weapons. I would say that this is not allowed?
 
#15
shortarms said:
3milesniper said:
As said before in previous threads the green slime are (or so they say) all over this sort of caper and said seller will being watched by MI Bn and RMP et the feds, however it look like a load of old crud to me and the armourer where I work regularly bins shite of this nature where I dunno (backloaded REME bods?)
Its all marked up and backloaded to Donington for special disposal.
Now I know cheers mate !
 
#16
Regardless. If deactivated it needs to be certificated.
 
#17
norse_yoda said:
Quote PSNI:

.....e)any magazine;[/i]


If magazines are firearms then should they not be stored in an armoury? Soldiers would therefore be committing an offence when they take them back to the block. I believe the PSNI may have misinterpreted the leggislation.
I have seen a soldier charged with a firearms offence when he was arrested for various traffic offences and was found with his magazines in his webbing found in the boot of his car. Fortunately I spoke with the magistrate and explained that a rifle can be fired with or without a magazine and they were issued to all soldiers in our Regiment and in addition to the Regular Army the TA regularly travelled to and from their training centres with them in their possession. That particular charge was dropped, the remainder however stuck as the guy was as guilty as sin!
 
#18
The Act covers 'Component Parts' because they can be readily assembled.

It was drafted to prevent the obtaining of parts with a view to assembling a complete weapon.
 
#19
norse_yoda said:
If magazines are firearms then should they not be stored in an armoury? Soldiers would therefore be committing an offence when they take them back to the block. I believe the PSNI may have misinterpreted the leggislation.
Nope it's not an error. Terrorists have been prosecuted over here for having a magazine in their possesion. The handfull of soldiers actually prosecuted as a result of the Stevens enquiry were done for possesion of buckshee mags and ancillary items.

We did start storing mags in our Arms Kote to prevent soldiers being prosecuted and prior to disbandment we encouraged everyone to hand in spare gas plugs etc to prevent them being done for it in the future.
 
#20
Henry_Tombs said:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170182724540&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm37%26satitle%3D170182724540%26fvi%3D1

Discuss!
He should be charged with "a piece of the breech" :)
 

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