Is the Unite union the biggest threat to UK economic security today?

#1
Saw this on the news: BBC News - BAA airport staff vote for strike action

These lunatics want to strike because a 1% pay rise is measly? Try telling that to the millions who've had a pay freeze for years (including all the public sector who've just got a 2 year pay freeze).
They want to strike because they think its not fair that a bonus of 450 quid was promised if a certain level of profitability was made, and which wasn't paid because said target wasn't reached (they fell short by 3%). Apparently the company should reward the staff for showing effort?

The real clincher is that 3000 people voted to strike (50% of the membership, not the workforce) and they can shut down 7 airports. These lunatics want to ruin the UK economy at a time when its never been weaker?

My view is simple - these lunatics are the single biggest threat to UK economic security, and should be treated accordingly. Putting peoples holidays and businesses at stake for no reason other than sheer bloodymindedness is wrong on every level.
 
#2
I would say unions rate as 3rd biggest threat.

1st is the public sector, the idea that for some reason the country cannot function with reductions in frontline services or high levels of spending (despite standards of living not rising in proportion to expenditure over 13 years).

2, the media, talking investment out of the country and causing incoherent and feckless public outcry, plus empowering an economically illeterate opposition. House prices NEED TO GO DOWN another 20-25% at least, as they are still vastly over valued. They need to stop linking house prices, economic stability and economic growth.

So the unions are in at 3. Public sector unions will be the next lot to cause a ruck but no one in the public nor any political party is going to accept strikes over firing thousands of outreach and diversity workers.

These guys are ****ing idiots. Hopefully the government will step in and if the BAA appeal fails.
 
#3
**** off, *******! Biggest threat, what like Banking collapse, recesion, fundamentalism, Tory party, drugs etc etc FFS.
 
#4
I would say the Unite union is a definite threat to the economic security and stability of the country. It seems to be able to hold our airports to ransom at will, with only a few votes cast for the strike (a minority of the workforce voted in favour of this strike).
 
#5
Unionism is slowly dying in this country and the actions of Unite are (thankfully) helping that cause. I hope they do strike and piss off as many decent hard working people as possible so they show themselves to be the utter tossers that they truly all are.

Damn every last one of their eyes!
 
#6
Do unite happen to live on the same planet as the rest of us? Far higher pay than anybody else in the industry and they are voting for a strike over 1%.

I maintain the way to deal with these morons is to hand out a massive number of P45s and turn around to the current unemployed and see who wants a job, I'll bet they won't be short of offers.
 
#9
UNITE are the shock troops of the Labour Party and as such will do anything they can to undermine a non-Labour Government. Should the consequences of their actions be terrible for the country then they are achieving their objective.
 
#10
Do unite happen to live on the same planet as the rest of us? Far higher pay than anybody else in the industry and they are voting for a strike over 1%.

I maintain the way to deal with these morons is to hand out a massive number of P45s and turn around to the current unemployed and see who wants a job, I'll bet they won't be short of offers.
They are not the biggest threat to security - big business is.

1% is crap when prices are constantly going up (1% in 2 years - no pay rise last year)
No pay rise for the army for 2 years - so you will now see what it is like in the real world when income stays put & costs of living go up (but most jobs don't have yearly increments)

If you sacked all these employees you would have to pay more tax - then it's the race to the bottom of the earnings pile, which is what big business want's, trapped in slavery & serfdom again.
 
#11
Tory party? Where have you been for the last 13 years? Banking collapse - on Labour's watch. Fundamenalism - uncontrolled immigration under Labour. Recession - hmm, who was at the helm again? Jacqui Smith as Home Secretary - drugs abound (not to mention porn :) )

Some reassessment required there. High-profile striking fcukwits are up there, but not the biggest threat. The biggest threat IMHO will be a prolonged reversal of the Labour decline. At least it's under way though.
Did I say Labour party wasn't responsible? There's just bigger fish to fry than Demonising Union's. If you don't know what a Union is (and at a guess, most on here don't) look up collective bargaining, stop looking at The Sun and Daily Mail and realise that Union's are not Pinko Lefties who want to Ban The Bomb, stop women shaving their armpits and read Das Kapital on their regulation 15 min tea break's.
 
#12
Bob Crowe is RMT, not UNITE.
You're quite right, Bob "12% pay rise" Crow doesn't come close to Derek Simpson,

Derek Simpson:
Salary: £97,027 salary
Pension contributions: £27,000 pa.
Expenses: £38,340 accommodation and subsistence
Car: £24,480

I bet Derek wonders how he's going to pay the bills.
 
#13
Bob "12% pay rise" Crow has to justify his salary to his members somehow.
Since when has he got anything to do with Unite? @.@ Remember, not all unions are like Unite!
 
#14
Did I say Labour party wasn't responsible? There's just bigger fish to fry than Demonising Union's. If you don't know what a Union is (and at a guess, most on here don't) look up collective bargaining, stop looking at The Sun and Daily Mail and realise that Union's are not Pinko Lefties who want to Ban The Bomb, stop women shaving their armpits and read Das Kapital on their regulation 15 min tea break's.
Spoken like a true union man. So you agree with the strike action then?
 
#17
Simple solution to this ---give them the pay rise they want --then make large scale redundancies ---when the people made redundant whine tell them to take it up with their union brothers .

When will these fuckwits realise that business needs to make money or die ?

The problem of course is everyone that gets made redundant stops paying in and starts getting paid out .

If baa was making profits yet still refusing pay deal they would have a case ,but when a firm is making huge losses the staff need to think a bit .
 
#18
Sometimes though management do shoot themselves in both feet. I have just had a call from a colleague who was due to have an interview re sickness. I was supposed to represent the management at a meeting with the individual and their representative. I read the sickness policy, checked the paper work, both found to be incomplete, ambigious, ill defined in certain respects and inconsistant in its application and I informed my management that it was unjust to proceed and left the case to them. Surprise surprise this has today been downgraded to an informal chat. From what I read and my thoughts we would have been well turned over and rightly so by the union rep.

To any manager, read your own policies, known and importantly question them if they seem wrong and not just rely on your so called HR department. I learnt this from a union convenor, who never lost a case because management never read their own polices, think they can overide agreed policies and do what they like. Yes, I am a member of a union, Unison, but as a manager, I do have the belief in looking after my people when they are unjustly disciplined and will fight like f**k to defend them.
 
#19
I know it wasn't addressed to me but, do you have an objection to them striking? If so, what is it?
Are you serious? I object to them inconveniencing hundreds of thousands of travellers during the busiest travel period of the year. Funnily enough there is also a fireman connection again. Lazy militant bastards to a man. How can airport firemen justify going on strike? Tell me that?
 
#20
You're quite right, Bob "12% pay rise" Crow doesn't come close to Derek Simpson,

Derek Simpson:
Salary: £97,027 salary
Pension contributions: £27,000 pa.
Expenses: £38,340 accommodation and subsistence
Car: £24,480

I bet Derek wonders how he's going to pay the bills.
It's a lot of money but my big boss got a £98,000,000 package last year up from £36,000,000 the year before.
he says he's worth it.
 

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