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Is the UK becoming a fascist state?

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I was listening to something on R4 yesterday evening and they were discussing the Coronavirus thing.

One of the contributors said that the reason China seems to have got a grip of their end of the epidemic* is that their authoritarian regime was able to impose the kind of restrictions that would be impossible in the UK and that the Chinese citizenry are more accustomed to having to comply to authority. It was felt that there would be a great deal of resistance to and non-compliance with similar restrictive ordinances and suspension of freedoms in the liberal-minded UK of today, where individual rights have been elevated over those of society.

I believe that they are probably right.

( * Assuming, of course, that things are being fully and truthfully reported.)
Indeed, the Soviet Union would not have been able to sustain 20 million KIA in the great patriotic war if it had been a democratic society
 
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Yes, it is



1. Powerful and continuing nationalism - Obviously yes

2. Disdain for human rights - No govt commitment to uphold ECHR charter in post-brexit Britain WATCH: MP says Churchill would be 'turning in his grave' after latest Brexit statement

3. Identification of enemies as a unifying cause - The judiciary: Enemies of the People (headline) - Wikipedia, remainers, the EU, immigrants etc

4. Rampant sexism - Self explanatory

5. Controlled mass media - The govt are working to abolish the BBC and C4 news which is about the only mass media in the UK that still criticises the conservative govt

6. Obsession with national security - well given the govts stated in its negotiating outlines that it will not cooperative with the EU with processes such as the EAW, it seems that it is more obsessed with persecuting windrush types and other immigrants than external threats. Indeed, given that brexit consumes everything it was noted by US officials that the UK didn't even bother with the recent Munich security conference

7. Religion and government intertwined - A big fat no here

8. Corporate power protected - Also a no with 'F*** business' and lack of consultation with business on UK-EU trade objectives. 'Tech tax' will be an interesting test of the govts ability to resist US demands

9. Labor power suppressed - stated intention of the govt to diverge on labour standards in post-brexit GB

10. Disdain for intellectual and the arts - We've had enough of experts. see also attempts to block Mary Beard from being appointed trustee of British museum for not holding political opinions agreeable to the govt Mary Beard blocked by No 10 as British Museum trustee 'for pro-Europe views'

11. Obsession with crime and punishment - See the zealous 'capital punishment supporting Home sec Patel

12. Rampant cronyism and corruption - Govt effectively glove puppets for disaster capitalists Brexit and Climate Science Denial: Johnson, Gove and Raab – all part of the Tufton Street Network – Byline Times
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At least the cut of the uniforms will improve.
 
Spy on the neighbour or others to contain the spread but as the comments below in the article state, when this is all over, will grassing still continue ...


Any thoughts?
First they came for the communists
And I did not speak out because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I am not a Jew.
Then they came for the blacks, but I did not speak out because I was not black.
Then they came for the Arabs, but I did not speak out because I am not Arab.
Then they came for the transgendered, but I did not speak out because I am not transgender.
Then they came for the feminists, but I did not speak out because I am not a feminist.
Then they stopped coming for anyone because all the problems were pretty much gone at that point.
 
Spy on the neighbour or others to contain the spread but as the comments below in the article state, when this is all over, will grassing still continue ...


Any thoughts?

When they start shooting people trying to leave the UK I'll start to worry, as we're still providing a taxi service for economic migrants to come here I think calling it a police state is a bit rash
 

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