Is the HAC role being changed ?

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Aswell as being told that all our Bowman kit is being taken away theres lots of rumours about our role being changed, no more patrols just fsts. I am in sig sqn. What is that going to mean for us ?
 
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And Learn that no matter who is in charge of the FST, the FAC is by far the hardest, best looking, most intelligent guy in the FST and you should all bow down to his superior capabilities. To quote someone else on here "Guns for Show, Fast Air for a pro!!"
 
#7
Yes, please choose the FAC if you need support within the next 15 minutes, possibly on a platform which is not loaded for the task correctly. Alternatively ask the FST boys if they could possibly get you a GMLRS round (if out of range of the guns FB) and place it upon Terrys head. Faster... cheaper... accurate.... The FAC boys wont like the fact they have been usurped by a ground platform for the majority of TiC's :)
 
#8
Out of interest is that happening or is the reliance on air ?
 
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wellyhead said:
Out of interest is that happening or is the reliance on air ?
I take it you have not read August's Gunner Magazine?

msr
 
#10
Touche!! Is the GMLRS being used in Theatre? What is the max vertex of the rounds? Don't they get up there with the Civvi jets? Would be a bit dodgey that, wouldn't want to knowck a 747 out of the sky!

PS. Understand why you removed the link but It was found by imputting Harris117 into google. So nothing that shouldn't be out there
 
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forniup said:
PS. Understand why you removed the link but It was found by imputting Harris117 into google. So nothing that shouldn't be out there
After I broke into a cold sweat thinking that I had caused an OPSEC breach by asking what "117" signified.I too googled "prc 117" and was instantly rewarded with all the information needed to bring down the evil Kaffir West for the glory of Allah (and very interesting it was too).We have really moved on from the C13 and B47 8O
 
#12
If civvi 747s are flying over Afghanistan (a war zone after all) I would be very surprised - don't they divert air lanes from over those areas?

They are using GMLRS and from buddies that have used recently/are now, it is very effective.

Don't forget that FSTs give the whole package - guns, MLRS, air and aviation, as well as co-ordinating mortars and other fires. The FAc is probably tacked onto their party any way. They will pick which asset to use for a particular target, or use what is ready, or use what they are told to use!
 
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msr said:
wellyhead said:
Out of interest is that happening or is the reliance on air ?
I take it you have not read August's Gunner Magazine?

msr
If you mean did I see a copy laying about the TAC before it was swiped then yes, unfortunatly I only had time to do what I always do with Gunner



See which motherless nig has been promoted over me
 
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django_strikes said:
If civvi 747s are flying over Afghanistan (a war zone after all) I would be very surprised - don't they divert air lanes from over those areas?

They are using GMLRS and from buddies that have used recently/are now, it is very effective.

Don't forget that FSTs give the whole package - guns, MLRS, air and aviation, as well as co-ordinating mortars and other fires. The FAc is probably tacked onto their party any way. They will pick which asset to use for a particular target, or use what is ready, or use what they are told to use!
WOuld have thought the Afghan gov would have got some much needed money by opening their airspace for commercial flight. All the Arty and Fast Air could be given a celing not to go above and the civvie jets stay pretty high
 
#15
Without knowing the answer to the question, it does appear that FST's are a darned useful role, and will need manpower.

Sadly for the HAC, and in spite of the fact it likes to think differently, it is part of the army and so should be in the business of producing soldiers for ops, and not just for pretending to be SF and holding balls :wink:
 
#16
I think that 4/73 Bty's role has been adjusted to provide more FSTs and less traditional Patrols, so it would follow that some elms of the HAC (traditionally the TA version of 4/73) do the same.

As to whether that affects the other troops within the HAC, surely that is a question for the HAC to answer? It may alter the role slightly if you no longer have to keep in coms with a patrol 200 miles away "behind enemy lines", but surely comms problems with maintaining contact with a roving FST and also providing a link to the air piece would fall to the Sigs Troop to solve?
 
#18
What? No more morse? ..-./..-/-.-./-.- -/..../.-/-
 
#19
Seen the 'Gunner' magazine - guess u are talking about the centre spread. But dont see how that is going to work for us as 4/73 dont have a big signals support element coz they dont need it in the way that a regt does. Anyway we are never going to get all that kit and the patrols dont have the time to do all the training for fac-ing. Story is we're being turned into some sort of cimic unit after xmas.
 
#20
Oh, maybe it then means you lazy Sigs Sqn tossers will have to do the PSC and not bin it after the first weekend.

Or leave/transfer to a Sig Regt.

Bye.
 
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