Is the cost of living crisis real ?

[Retired bloke]

Do the exercise...sit down with a sheet of paper (or a spreadsheet) and, work out 'needs' and 'wants' remembering to ditch any 'must haves' in the process and, learn to shop !

Do you really think that a 2nd or 3rd generation shite hole sink estate family, will have the intellect or will to sit down and do as prescribed above, hell's teeth guv, that too much like hard work and time wasted away from TOWIE and love island. Its too easy to buy ready made meals, and Ping, in 3 minutes Chardonnay Tyler and the other 4 pre school kids, are tucking into a polystyrene container of E numbers and toxic chemicals.

There will be responsible parents, usually two, who will make the effort to do the right thing, but go out into the street at school home time, and see what looks like battalions of school girls pushing baby buggies( Strollers for our septic readers) one in the chair, one hanging on and shes pregnant, again.

The last two generations of kids have on the whole, not been taught the basics of money management, home cooking, and a responsible shopping agenda. The over indulgent welfare system is out of control, so why should a dim witted teen aged mum get a job, learn to cook, clean and provide the basics, when the government charity's and local councils fall over themselves to provide for them, at everyone else's expense.

I acknowledge that the majority of young mum's do the right thing, and will move heaven and earth to provide a stable and loving home, but the trend today seems to be , "sod it i can ponce off the welfare system and the council".

Rant over...tin foil hat off...awaiting incoming...3...2...1...

 

[javaguzzisti]

Do you really think that a 2nd or 3rd generation shite hole sink estate family, will have the intellect or will to sit down and do as prescribed above, hell's teeth guv, that too much like hard work and time wasted away from TOWIE and love island. Its too easy to buy ready made meals, and Ping, in 3 minutes Chardonnay Tyler and the other 4 pre school kids, are tucking into a polystyrene container of E numbers and toxic chemicals.

There will be responsible parents, usually two, who will make the effort to do the right thing, but go out into the street at school home time, and see what looks like battalions of school girls pushing wheel chairs( Strollers for our septic readers) one in the chair, one hanging on and shes pregnant, again.

The last two generations of kids have on the whole, not been taught the basics of money management, home cooking, and a responsible shopping agenda. The over indulgent welfare system is out of control, so why should a dim witted teen aged mum get a job, learn to cook, clean and provide the basics, when the government charity's and local councils fall over themselves to provide for them, at everyone else's expense.

I acknowledge that the majority of young mum's do the right thing, and will move heaven and earth to provide a stable and loving home, but the trend today seems to be , "sod it i can ponce off the welfare system and the council".

Rant over...tin hat off...awaiting incoming...3...2...1...

So she buys an instant cake and burns a frozen steak.
You can't always get what you want, Stones late '60's.
No change really.

 

[Old Stab]

Do you really think that a 2nd or 3rd generation shite hole sink estate family, will have the intellect or will to sit down and do as prescribed above, hell's teeth guv, that too much like hard work and time wasted away from TOWIE and love island. Its too easy to buy ready made meals, and Ping, in 3 minutes Chardonnay Tyler and the other 4 pre school kids, are tucking into a polystyrene container of E numbers and toxic chemicals.

There will be responsible parents, usually two, who will make the effort to do the right thing, but go out into the street at school home time, and see what looks like battalions of school girls pushing wheel chairs( Strollers for our septic readers) one in the chair, one hanging on and shes pregnant, again.

The last two generations of kids have on the whole, not been taught the basics of money management, home cooking, and a responsible shopping agenda. The over indulgent welfare system is out of control, so why should a dim witted teen aged mum get a job, learn to cook, clean and provide the basics, when the government charity's and local councils fall over themselves to provide for them, at everyone else's expense.

I acknowledge that the majority of young mum's do the right thing, and will move heaven and earth to provide a stable and loving home, but the trend today seems to be , "sod it i can ponce off the welfare system and the council".

Rant over...tin hat off...awaiting incoming...3...2...1...

Nail
Head
Hit.

 

[fraudstar]

So she buys an instant cake and burns a frozen steak.
You can't always get what you want, Stones late '60's.
No change really.

George Orwell said the working class “smell” in The Road to Wigan Pier.

Every generation thinks itself greater than the one they ironically create and have written about it for millennia.

 

[goodoldboy]

There will be responsible parents, usually two, who will make the effort to do the right thing, but go out into the street at school home time, and see what looks like battalions of school girls pushing wheel chairs( Strollers for our septic readers) one in the chair, one hanging on and shes pregnant, again.

Where is this?

 

[chimera]

A typical BBC Vox Pop piece, which people are so hard up that:

"....They do still get takeaways and go out for meals, but not as often as they used to. And when they do go out they order a jug of tap water to keep the bill down..." How about just eating decent food at home all the time?

".....Rebecca says she has never been a "big spender" when it comes to fashion, but her daughter Jess does want new things....." How about telling her she can't have them?

"....Georgia is also budgeting to cope with price rises, and one way she can save money, she says, is by spending a day out at Cannon Hill Park in Birmingham, rather than taking her daughter Harper-Faye to a visitor attraction. No sh*t Sherlock.

Three things we're cutting back on as prices rise

People in Birmingham and Kent tell the BBC how they are cutting back to cope with the cost of living crisis.

www.bbc.com

 

[lokiuk]

I'm not sure we can avoid a recession now, living costs are shooting up, spending is dropping down, and spending in America is dropping too

Inflation, strikes, house repossessions are incoming, petrol costs leading to decreased mobility of labour causing employment issues for businesses

Irrespective of Russia shooting itself in the foot invading Ukraine, things are going to be painful, the cost of living crisis is going to get a lot worse

 

[Boris_Johnson]

Well I've done my bit for the day.

Stood behind an old lady in the checkout - her shopping came to £51.60. She only had £50 on her, bless her.

But as she was fishing around for loose change I stepped in to help. She kept refusing but I absolutely insisted.

We got her shopping put back on the supermarket shelves in no time at all

 

[captaincalamity]

Well I've done my bit for the day.

Stood behind an old lady in the checkout - her shopping came to £51.60. She only had £50 on her, bless her.

But as she was fishing around for loose change I stepped in to help. She kept refusing but I absolutely insisted.

We got her shopping put back on the supermarket shelves in no time at all

The old ones are the best, are they not..?

 

[Syledis]

Well I've done my bit for the day.

Stood behind an old lady in the checkout - her shopping came to £51.60. She only had £50 on her, bless her.

But as she was fishing around for loose change I stepped in to help. She kept refusing but I absolutely insisted.

We got her shopping put back on the supermarket shelves in no time at all

Its always fruitful to hang around supermarket toilets as people sometimes leave their trolleys outside while they go for a pee. before heading to their cars, i see it less like stealing, and more like a trolley dash to be honest.

 

[Retired bloke]

Where is this?

An slight exaggeration of the facts, but i do hope you see what i mean. The 3 junior schools near me all have a contingent of young teenaged mums, and the schools are all in the middle of 3 council estates, One is known for its problem families.

 

[mush_dad]

Well I've done my bit for the day.

Stood behind an old lady in the checkout - her shopping came to £51.60. She only had £50 on her, bless her.

But as she was fishing around for loose change I stepped in to help. She kept refusing but I absolutely insisted.

We got her shopping put back on the supermarket shelves in no time at all

Last week I was in the supermarket with quite a loaded trolley. The little old lady behind just had two items. I asked her "Is that all you've got to pay for?". She nodded, so I said she'd best bugger off to another checkout I was probably going to be ages

 

[Steamboat]

I'm not sure we can avoid a recession now, living costs are shooting up, spending is dropping down, and spending in America is dropping too

Inflation, strikes, house repossessions are incoming, petrol costs leading to decreased mobility of labour causing employment issues for businesses

Irrespective of Russia shooting itself in the foot invading Ukraine, things are going to be painful, the cost of living crisis is going to get a lot worse

A recession is a done deal. The Fed will let it happen in an attempt to tame inflation.

Now in order to best come to terms with this fact I implore you to take out a new credit card and max it out on feel good shopping!

 

[exbleep]

Spain's inflation rate dropped to 8.3% in April but back up to 8.8% for May.
Fuel the driving force which obviously impacts on delivery fees etc.
Cheapest diesel I saw today was €1.977 litre and, going up the motorway on Monday, saw it was €2.12 diesel and over €2.20 for petrol. Average in cheaper garages is €2 for diesel at self serve (pay at machine only) or supermarkets but only if you have a loyalty card.
Still get 20 cents government discount on those prices but still high.

Electricity prices have come down about 29% since Spain and Portugal agreed a price cap on gas (and taking bloody ages to get EU approval to do it) though that doesn't affect me on a fixed rate.

No shortages in the supermarkets but some things gone silly upwards. All vegetable oils now more expensive than the fuel you stick in your car (3 euro a litre of sunflower oil, for example). No need to ration that as most people aren't buying it.

Fish has gone up quite a bit. Fresh cod was 9.95 a kilo just over a month ago but now up to 12.95 a kilo. Lamb from 9.95 a kilo to 11.95 a kilo although chicken and pork seem to have remained static.

Now have beggars outside virtually every supermarket. Used to be the guy with the piano accordion or uke but now just sit there with a cap in front of them.

More people in employment now than there were before the pandemic but still high unemployment level, especially among the young but bars and restaurants screaming out for waiting staff. Just like other places people don't seem to want to work weekends anymore. One ex waiter said his only day off was Monday when the restaurant closed and he wanted more than that. After having a break from waiting on he has found a job where he finishes at lunchtime Saturday until Monday morning every week.

Socialist (minority) government getting quite a bit of stick and record gains in some regions for the Conservative parties. Andalusia has just gone PP (blues) for the first time and quite a big turn round. Valencia Region seems like it might go the same way in the upcoming elections.
I suppose people will blame whichever government is in power regardless of leaning. They also seem to forget the last PM (blue) had to leave because of fiddling and also the dep pres in Valencia (red) has just had to resign as her husband is up for alleged kiddy fiddling against someone under her hubby's guardianship.

 

[Fox3WMB]

One wonders whether Joe Public will eventually realise that the party political system, and therefore the politicians that rise up in it, is actually the problem.

 

[RoofRat]

One wonders whether Joe Public will eventually realise that the party political system, and therefore the politicians that rise up in it, is actually the problem.

Or that...they the public are the problem ?

Above inflation pay rise, the goods production/services costs rise because the workers got a pay rise !

Manufactured goods/Food production goes up, price goes up, cost of living goes up, customers wages don't go as far so, they demand a wage rise because, they don't see why they shouldn't live in the manner to which they've become accustomed.

A lot of pain in the short term, is infinitely preferable to less pain for a long time but, what people want is...no pain at all.

What planet do they live on ?

 

[Ding Dong!]

I'm not sure we can avoid a recession now, living costs are shooting up, spending is dropping down, and spending in America is dropping too

Inflation, strikes, house repossessions are incoming, petrol costs leading to decreased mobility of labour causing employment issues for businesses

Irrespective of Russia shooting itself in the foot invading Ukraine, things are going to be painful, the cost of living crisis is going to get a lot worse

I fear you are correct but am not so sure on the house repossessions. I was suprised that there were so few in the aftermath of 2008, it seems that being bearing with defaulters for a period, setting up flexible payments etc is a better option for the lender than realising the loss and selling at firesale prices.

 

[Vladimir_Ilyich_Crab]

One wonders whether Joe Public will eventually realise that the party political system, and therefore the politicians that rise up in it, is actually the problem.

I'll buy the politicians being the problem - but the system? In the UK? I think FPTP is intertwined with it (and therefore how the parties do business) - but FPTP tends to give a clear result. I'd hate to have the Belgian system at the moment.

There are definitely too many products of the Westminster bubble and the system self generates more - but is there a lot of non-Westminsterites, with actual life knowledge/skills, pushing to be selected by their respective parties?

Not noticeably in this perpetual circle jerk methinks.

 

[Steamboat]

Or that...they the public are the problem ?

Above inflation pay rise, the goods production/services costs rise because the workers got a pay rise !

Manufactured goods/Food production goes up, price goes up, cost of living goes up, customers wages don't go as far so, they demand a wage rise because, they don't see why they shouldn't live in the manner to which they've become accustomed.

A lot of pain in the short term, is infinitely preferable to less pain for a long time but, what people want is...no pain at all.

What planet do they live on ?

Do you volunteer to get kicked in the dick?

 

[Fox3WMB]

Or that...they the public are the problem ?

Above inflation pay rise, the goods production/services costs rise because the workers got a pay rise !

Manufactured goods/Food production goes up, price goes up, cost of living goes up, customers wages don't go as far so, they demand a wage rise because, they don't see why they shouldn't live in the manner to which they've become accustomed.

A lot of pain in the short term, is infinitely preferable to less pain for a long time but, what people want is...no pain at all.

What planet do they live on ?

Well, no.
Wage rises are not the only cause of price rises, and the two are only coincidentally the same value.
The government, and companies, both have quite a few options to adjust prices rises.
Not the least of these would be companies making less profit, adjusting the ratio of compensation between lower waged workers and executives, and the government taking less tax or reducing expenditure.
More fundamentally, the inefficiencies in the systems, and the economic consequences of policies, need to be addressed. The average worker has no influence over any of these.
I'm with the workers on this one.