IS op....The way forward or a load of arrse??

[bigbadjimmyp]

any IS ops out there??? or pot IS ops??
what is it all about????? is it hard?
Is it worth it?
are you better off going yos?
What do you get out of it once you decide to bin the army, or your time runs out?
Hmmmmmmmm!

 

[Throb_FOS]

Stick to what you know.

It's dead mans boot just now.

 

[CGS]

When the Corps went through the transition from the old trade structure to the new set, IS op was spawned whether we needed it or not.

There are very few of them and they get lots of qualifications for Civ Div.

The YofS' Car is the last in the car park at the end of the day...  and no one likes them.

seems like I just made your decision easier.

 

[Davros_the_Dalek]

IS op.. 9 Months to fix and replace a printer!
Ach, in all fairness to them, it was the suppliers' fault. Helpdesk just looked at it and said.. "It's f**ked."

New one works well tho' guys.. for the time being!

 

[Fox_Force_5]

Delete IS Op...Insert resettlement course. I think its just shorter than the pilot's resettlement course.

Go for it! "Army be a help desk"

 

[CGS]

Or just apply for a Commission .....

 

[Fox_Force_5]

A commission an appalling ressettlement course. It teaches you absolutely nothing, so if you leave you are qualified to do absolutely diddly squat.

I can't think of a better way to keep people in! Training people is dangerous. STOP IT IMMEADIATELY

 

[spookyspook]

TO BE HONEST GUYS THE SIGS IS ALL A BUNCH OF A**E
I TRANSFERRED 3 YEARS AGO AND I HAVE NEVER LOOKED BACK. I HAVE JUST COME BACK FROM WORKING WITH THE SIGNALS ON AN OP TOUR AND OH MY GOD.

THE STANDING JOKE BY NON SIGS PERSONNEL OUT THERE WAS:

Q.   WHAT DO YOU CALL 3 SIGNALLERS STOOD TOGETHER?

A.   A PARADE

CONSIDERING THE SIGNALS ARE NOT GRUNTS THE CORPS CAPACITY FOR BULLS**T IS AMAZING

I AM SURPRISED THERE IS ANYONE LEFT IN THE CORPS, THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN TREAT YOUR GUYS THAT BADLY AND EXPECT THEM TO STAY IN.

GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL!!

 

[RTG]

The IS op is fundamentally unemployed....a very good idea if you want to train soldiers who aint good enough for the YofS or FofS cses to prevent them from becoming RD mongs and what a damn fine ressettlement cse.

However, why bother because surely its cheaper just to contract ICL or someother company to run our IS, which is what happens when the IS ops have exhausted all possiblities - printer out of paper, toner etc, monitor not turned on or connected.

How can you have a IS Tfc offr - because he got about as much grip on command as some RD fool - mind you look at all the RSMs that get commissioned - and they are definately as thick as a whale omlette.

 

[naughty_monkey]

Face upto the truth - IS systems/CIS are the future for the Corps and the army as a whole.  We need to get a grip of the situation and have high quality guys trained to do the job or we risk getting left behind.

Why do we not train IS Ops from Class 3?  We will never get enough and keep them in unless we give them a decent career path to follow.  Why do potential IS Ops have to be a Cpl before they can retrade?  We waste time and money on their old trade which they then never use again!  How does that benefit us?
???

 

[dave_beel]

Like you said one of the current problems is why do we have to be Class 1 Cpl.  I have been doing an IS job as a Class 2 LCpl for nearly three years now and they wouldn't put me in for IS Op.  Now I am a Class 1 Cpl they have put me in and hopefully I will start the course later this year.  Why bother??  If someone has the courses and skills and has proven they can do the job, then put them in for it! :-/

 

[Scat_or_Scrat]

I myself agree with the comments about being a class 2 and not being able to become an IS OP I transfered about 3 years ago and currently employed in an IS role despite being MCSE qualified (although this is not recognised within the Corps) I am unable to even get on the roster let alone do the course for which I am already over qualified.
A friend of mine who was fortunate enough (or unfortunate depending on your view point) managed the transgression to IS OP and would like to revert back to SYS OP beacuse of the lack of promotion prospects (Nil for another 4 years) due to the fact the beloved Corps in its infinite wisdom decided to send invites for the role to every tom dick and harry who has ever downloaded porn obviously the criteria for IS supervisor, when will these people who supposedly manage our careers realise that there is an abundance of experience within the corps and that we dont actually all use computers to logon to bangbus.com and give us the opportunity to progress in our trade and use our experience to promote within the corps!!!!
but like the Murphys I am not bittter

 

[Bow_Man]

Theres more to computers than Bangbus ??? Surely not  ??? What other magnificent things can I find out in the "World Wide Web"

 

[Victor-M]

RTG, the I.S op is not unemployed, he is good for humping boxes and doing bonk things in HQ. I it sounds as if you failed your I.S. part of your class one. Nevermind you can go YofS, as-long as you don't get posted to Regt with Ptarmigan (just stick to Bde) then you won't be out of your depth. The only bad thing at the mo is promotion, but still have pot YofS on your CR and BINGO you've got there.

 

[bullshit]

Scat/Scrat,

If you are talking about the career hold up being due to the intake of other arms for DBA & App Ops, you are wrong.  All of theses posts have been created in addition to existing IS Op posts, specifically for Digistisation stage 1.  Should this Digitisation work then this will almost certainly promote the profile of the IS Op.

Secondly, there were several R Signals on these courses (mainly the DBA Course) and some of the others from outside the R Sigs had MCSE, Degrees, MCDBA, HNDs in IS to name but a few!

Check your facts - don't listen to rumours!

 

[Victor-M]

Bullshit, scat was not refering to other aspects of the IS, he was refering to the way the CORPS has put up obstacles. They gave all the dangly carrots to recruit from within the corps, and then halted all promotion. If they wanted all the outsiders why didn't they request them from the begining, then we would have had second thoughts before changing trade and going no further. FACT: look at how many full screws came off this years IS borad or any other, because they are taking 150 SNCOs/ WOs it to the corps. You don't have to have a degree to work out that promotion is going to be at a snails pace for the next few years. They say that they will keep the promotion apart, but we all know the truth

 

[bullshit]

Victor,

Interesting stuff.  You say 150 transfer in?  Into which trade - IS Op?  The blokes i saw in Blandord was about 20.

Null

 

[digimon]

The IS op trade would be a lot better if all the useless wana be's were slung out. The people blocking the system at the mo are the free loaders who when sent on cse to improve skill levels do nothing more that treat it as an extra weeks leave.

 

[the_rigger]

If you want careers advice, look no further, what you should do is go 2ic of the pissed mattress store. Let's face it, there will always be loads of work to do and you won't have the ball ache reponsibility of being in-charge.
Carry on, but more work on the boots

 

[error_unknown]

Rigger, I agree

The last 6 months of my army "career" were spent grafting in the Diana Dors. I learnt more in there than I had during my previous nine years.

Admittedly, knowledge about the mattress destroying habits of other servicemen is difficult to translate into CV speak, but working out ways to remove stains, called on all the mental resources available.

Never mind the IS stuff, get in the stores.

Must go, theres been a blanket avalanche in Donnington