Is it worth transferring to your mob???

#2
bigbadjimmyp said:
I am after "useful" comments and helpful PM'S as to whether its worth the effort to bin the scaley badge and transferring into your corps.
Suprised you need to ask!
 
#3
probably be worth binning the scaley badge and transfering to the Womens Auxillary Balloon Corps. :lol:
 
#5
BBJP

It would be difficult for me to be objective here, you should seek out someone from one of the trade groups that has just moved from the Royal Corps to the Intelligence Corps.

Before you jump ship you might like to reflect that life can be unduly influenced by the mindset of your CO.

In 1994 the CO of one Royal Signals unit told me that most of his tradesmen and tradeswomen were sad spotters who sat on their @r5es all day, processing traffic, and sorely needed to get out and spend more time on area cleaning, PT and battle camp.

Eight years later a subsequent CO of the same unit told me that he was immensely proud of the work of his troops, and he regarded them as being in the front line of TW@T ( and got them the awards to prove it!)

< he may however, be the exception that proves the rule> :wink:
 
#6
Get treated like an adult.
Are expected to use your initiative.
Are valued for the work you do.
High pay band (except SSgt).
Lots of opportunity to deploy.
Lots of specialist trade courses.
When you go to Depot to do trade courses you're not expected to have your boots bulled to the eyebrows.

Hmmm.....

Tough one.....

As an ex Scalie myself, I would say yes. Don't be like 95% of the other lot who transfer and let it all go to your head. Being in the Int Corps doesn't make you anything special and it doesn't make you a chick magnet. Obviously, coming from the Royal Corps of Sl@gs, this might come as a shock to you (said with love ladies, said with love).

I fully recommended the move. When I transfered across the Royal Corps tried to retain me by sending me away for 6 months with the White Helmets - DO NOT FALL FOR THIS PLOY AS IT IS SHITE!!!
By the way, i've signed off now but i'm probably the only person on run down who is NOT bitter, so if you want to ask any more questions I will be happy to answer them.

All the best,

FunkyNewBlood
 
#7
Yep, it is worth transferring, I did. Ex infantry here, no regrets at all, treated like a adult, get to use the gray matter, lot more travel, better prospects.
 
#8
I'm trying to make the change to the int corps from the artillery. any helpful advice/pm's sent my way also will be greatly apreciated.
 
#9
Also something to think about..those that have made "the jump" are not all going to admit that their choice was crap now are they? every job going has it's faults..make sure you are transferring for the right reasons or you may as well just call it quits and leave it all behind..
 
#10
CC is right, the Corps is likely to be swamped by applications to transfer as FAS takes hold. ie. We are expanding whilst many others are not.

So now it is doubly important that you want to transfer for the right reasons.

If you want to transfer becasuse the R Sigs are cr*p, how long will it be before you decide the Int Corps are cr*p?
 
#13
papa_lazaroo said:
well the paper work's in! now i wait.
Be careful what you wish for.

I transferred, along with many others and initially most of us proffed quite well, as will you. You will bring diversity and skills that the Int Corps will exploit.

As for career management the Int Corps are probably the worst around. Don't get me wrong, if you have friends in the Directorate or in MCM Div you will cruise through, as the 'Golden' children ARE looked after. Ask Next_to_the_tank. If she is in an honest mood she will not give you the party line but may tell the truth.

This is not a dig at the hierarchy, not that I am arssed about annoying them. There are a few out there that will agree that nepotism goes a long way to grease the wheels. Personally, I think is a backhanded way of manipulating the system, usually to the detriment of someone else.

All I will say is.....be careful what you wish for.
 
#14
Dags where have you been for the past 2 years! PL posted that over 2 years ago, undoubtedly he is now a fully paid up member of our fine establishment!

Not that i disagree with your point mind!
 
#15
Dags_is_innocent said:
As for career management the Int Corps are probably the worst around. Don't get me wrong, if you have friends in the Directorate or in MCM Div you will cruise through, as the 'Golden' children ARE looked after.
rash statement, I happen to know the Int Corps desk officer at MCM Div very well, he is very good at his job and there are no 'Golden Children', he hates everybody!
 
#16
Dags_is_innocent said:
papa_lazaroo said:
well the paper work's in! now i wait.
Be careful what you wish for.

I transferred, along with many others and initially most of us proffed quite well, as will you. You will bring diversity and skills that the Int Corps will exploit.

As for career management the Int Corps are probably the worst around. Don't get me wrong, if you have friends in the Directorate or in MCM Div you will cruise through, as the 'Golden' children ARE looked after. Ask Next_to_the_tank. If she is in an honest mood she will not give you the party line but may tell the truth.

This is not a dig at the hierarchy, not that I am arssed about annoying them. There are a few out there that will agree that nepotism goes a long way to grease the wheels. Personally, I think is a backhanded way of manipulating the system, usually to the detriment of someone else.

All I will say is.....be careful what you wish for.
Ummn, I wonder which friend that would be... :wink:
 
#17
does he have a big nose?
 
#18
Dags_is_innocent said:
papa_lazaroo said:
well the paper work's in! now i wait.
Be careful what you wish for.

I transferred, along with many others and initially most of us proffed quite well, as will you. You will bring diversity and skills that the Int Corps will exploit.

As for career management the Int Corps are probably the worst around. Don't get me wrong, if you have friends in the Directorate or in MCM Div you will cruise through, as the 'Golden' children ARE looked after. Ask Next_to_the_tank. If she is in an honest mood she will not give you the party line but may tell the truth.

This is not a dig at the hierarchy, not that I am arssed about annoying them. There are a few out there that will agree that nepotism goes a long way to grease the wheels. Personally, I think is a backhanded way of manipulating the system, usually to the detriment of someone else.

All I will say is.....be careful what you wish for.
Dags,

I will be nothing but honest and do not push any 'party line' except that which is Corps policy and fact. If you see the party line as lying and 'blowing smoke up the individual's ar*e' you are mistaken.

Whilst I would accept that career management has not always been perfect, it has improved radically in recent years with extra military staff at MCM Div and the introduction of a RCMO. The days of individuals successfully manipulating the system at the cost of others are well on the way out. (You might also want to look up the meaning of Nepotism in its strictest sense).

People get on in this Corps by producing the goods, being better than their peers and understanding their own strengths and weaknesses. Armed with that information they can discuss their career options with the chain of command and/or the RCMO and plan accordingly. Too often people make the excuse of 'Golden Children' or bias to cover up or excuse their own failings.

I have certainly come across Royal Corps of Signals soldiers who have complained of mis-management by their MCM staff and chain of command. Such mis-management is not exclusively an INT CORPS characteristic and I doubt that we head the league table for incompetence as you suggest.

papa_lazaroo,

Good luck - there are plenty of opportunities to get on in this Corps. Take control of your own career and listen to the advice provided on the rank you potentially may reach and the career path you will realistically follow.
 
#20
Dags_is_innocent said:
As for career management the Int Corps are probably the worst around.
how many other capbadges have you worked for, for a prolonged period of time, who had a direct impact on your career? i.e. first and second reporting officers. (because personally i am not convinced that Pt 3 carries much weight on a board - but i believe a Corps officer can undo any damage done in either pt 1 or pt 2 if they write the other). who exactly are you comparing the Int Corps career management to?

i've worked for several other cap badges, each for over two years. (Cav 1RO, RAF 2RO; RE 1RO & 2RO; AAC 1 RO & 2RO), as well as op tour with inf RO for op insert. total of nearly nine years of external management & reporting, so i have something to compare it to.

Cav/RAF combo and the AAC were far worse than the int corps management, in my opinion. RE were very good.

those who know me know i could climb on a soapbox about corps management / promotion etc, arguably with some justification. but your comment that the Int Corps is the worst around sounds like sour grapes rather than an opinion based on first hand experience at the hands of other capbadges.

i've plenty of reason to be disappointed with my career progress thus far. but am mature enough to see the reasons behind it and not blithely stick out comments which blame the Corps. sometimes you get shit on, sometimes things are not fair. but that is not unique to the Int Corps, believe me.

so who else have you worked for directly for a prolonged period, with direct influence over your career (1RO & 2RO), that you compare the int corps to?

(and before you bang on about your years in your old lot before you transferred, and get all misty-eyed with nostalgia... if the man-management was so good... why did you leave...?)
 

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