Is it time for another General Election?

Don't think another GE would benefit us, just a way of swerving democracy and ignoring the masses while hoping to keep seats.
Its not really swerving democracy to give people the chance to vote.
Labour IMHO are dead in the water, Tories not an ideal alternative, Lib Dems and others of no consequence. Another election and I see a sub 30% turnout. People are fed up with politics now. They spoke and were ignored, so wat's the point? Trouble is we'd still get the same self serving tossers, just different names. :cool:
Labour are close to winning

UK Polling Report
 
No chance, PMTM will declare herself Prime Minister for Life tomorrow, backed up by volunteers on leave from the European Army.
The problem is that once you start saying "take back control", then everyone wants to do it. Parliament wants to take back control from the government, the Scots and Welsh want to take it back from England, and probably the Queen wants to take it back so she can bang all their silly heads together. This is very entertaining.
Yes it is. The B word is the gift that keeps on giving and a General Election would be the icing on the cake.
 
The problem with May's ex deal is it would have meant we obeyed the European courts on all sorts things and the EU has a veto on a load of things etc. It seemed like we would've left but we wouldn't really have left.
Fair enough, but when considering the impossible task TM was given how can any deal work that pleases the 52% that voted out and the 48% that voted remain? Watching parliament these days it's like a mum asking 13 kids at the dinner table "would you like cabbage or sprouts with the roast beef" but she's only got sprouts in the fridge and dad wants carrots!
 
What about Socialist Remainer Jews who hate America but are pro-Zionism?
Splitters, and traitors to the People's Popular Front of Judea, and no better than those other splitters at the Judean People's Popular Front!
 
Splitters, and traitors to the People's Popular Front of Judea, and no better than those other splitters at the Judean People's Popular Front!
Yeah, but what have the politicians ever done for us?
 
Isn't your preferred view of lefties through sights?
I know a few of the left leaning types and married a Liberal chick. So I don't hate them, but these are also the American Left which is a whole different kettle of fish.

The European lefties tend to be pretty Anti American and don't give me that warm fuzzy feeling that they can be reasoned with. They tend to bring forth a more gruff and less polite response. Having an Anti American head of state/high level official would be very bad for all sides.
 
Given that trump won his election and is constantly stymied in persuing his agenda, that the US population voted for.

And assuming that there is a second referendum in the uk over brexit, seemingly because parliament won’t respect the last one.

It makes you wonder if it’s worth voting anymore.
 
I know a few of the left leaning types and married a Liberal chick. So I don't hate them, but these are also the American Left which is a whole different kettle of fish.

The European lefties tend to be pretty Anti American and don't give me that warm fuzzy feeling that they can be reasoned with. They tend to bring forth a more gruff and less polite response. Having an Anti American head of state/high level official would be very bad for all sides.
I didn't mean you personally,I meant Americans generally.I should made that a bit clearer.
You make a good point,though.
 
Yes and shooting you in the collective dick and kneecapping us in the process. If the US-UK relationship goes down the drain you can very well kiss NATO goodbye. You are the bedrock nation on that side of the pond because well France is France and Germany gives no fucks as long as they control the Euro. Would JC really be that ******* dumb to give the US reason enough to abandon Europe and just focus on the Pacific??
Not only is he that dumb, his underlings are even dumber.
 
I didn't mean you personally,I meant Americans generally.I should made that a bit clearer.
You make a good point,though.
IMO it is easier to deal with folks who have different political leanings that you have known for a long time. Like your mates from school, civil discourse is quite possible and whilst we don't agree with each other we don't want to kill each other either. You win people over playing the long game, the best thing Europe could do is send thousands of students over who make friends and marry into American society and change social attitudes one bit at at time.

Now a screaming foreigner speaking some funny language burning an American Flag, and hating your guts because of your nationality is not setting the conditions for discourse. It does the exact opposite, it makes us retreat further into our national shell and makes us less likely inclined to want to deal with the world. I don't want America to be the world's policeman, but I do believe that selective engagement is in our best interest. I personally am more prone to Brits and Germans then say the French or Russians. We don't love all the peoples of the world but we don't hate you all either and some countries are viewed in a more favorable light then others.

The UK going tits up would be a bad thing.
 
Its not really swerving democracy to give people the chance to vote.


Labour are close to winning

UK Polling Report
Then why not give the people a vote on anything put before the house of commons or the lords, if it doesn't get pass a peoples vote it doesn't happen, and makes parliament subservient to the people

Then you would have more democracy by giving people the chance to vote where it matters
 
Fair enough, but when considering the impossible task TM was given how can any deal work that pleases the 52% that voted out and the 48% that voted remain? Watching parliament these days it's like a mum asking 13 kids at the dinner table "would you like cabbage or sprouts with the roast beef" but she's only got sprouts in the fridge and dad wants carrots!
The 48% need to remember they lost and suck it up and that in particular refers to the MPs. Mine [Ken Clark] voted against the deal yet it's exactly the 'you're out but you're in' deal that would suit him down to the ground, so I can only conclude he thinks this will create a situation where we either delay leaving [indefinitely] or mean we have to cancel the whole project. The EU 'deal' was always going to be a 'screw you' type deal to discourage anyone else from leaving, but May went along with it as though either she was too scared to say no or she actually thought it was a good idea.
 
I believe that JC calling for another GE, shows just how out of touch he is with the planet Earth labour heart lands.
Edited to reflect reality.
 
Its not really swerving democracy to give people the chance to vote.


Labour are close to winning

UK Polling Report
Well, to be fair, first they need to win the No Confidence vote.

Realistically, in order to do that, Labour would need Arlene Foster and the DUP to abandon the long-standing relationship between them and vote against the Conservative (indeed, technically the Conservative & Unionist party)

At which point, Jeremy realises that certain decisions can, undoubtedly, come back and bite you on the arse many years later

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The European lefties tend to be pretty Anti American and don't give me that warm fuzzy feeling that they can be reasoned with. They tend to bring forth a more gruff and less polite response. Having an Anti American head of state/high level official would be very bad for all sides.
However they do like working over in Washington when they fail over here.
 

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