Is Islam compatible with democracy?

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  1. This is an interesting Gallup poll of a large sampling of the world's Muslims
    (for more, go to http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0517/p12s05-wogi.html) - a few examples:


    •Large majorities cite the equal importance of democracy and Islam to the quality of life and progress of the Muslim world. They see no contradiction between democratic values and religious principles.

    •Political freedoms are among the things they admire most about the West.

    •Substantial majorities in nearly all nations say that if drafting a new constitution, they would guarantee freedom of speech (see chart, below).

    •Most want neither theocracy nor secular democracy but a third model in which religious principles and democratic values coexist. They want their own democratic model that draws on Islamic law as a source.

    •Significant majorities say religious leaders should play no direct role in drafting a constitution, writing legislation, determining foreign policy, or deciding how women dress in public.
     
  2. If we agree that democracy is a dictate of majority, and that majority wants to live in accordance with Islamic laws (of whatever branch of Islam they prefer), then it is their brand of democracy.
     
  3. True, but see the fourth bullet down -
    most want neither theocracy nor secular democracy but a third model in which religious principles and democratic values coexist.

    This is somewhat true of the West with Christianity and democracy. Our governments may be secular, but are informed with Christian values.
     
  4. Nooo dont get us started on this again, Religion should be banned and outlawed
     
  5. that way in China, no? Or something similar

    also, maybe what the world's muslims might want is somewhat different from what they getting and will be for some time - some countries are regressing
     
  6. For better or worse, callum, it isn't going away. That being the case, wouldn't you say that many Muslims preferring a democracy to a theocracy is encouraging news?
     
  7. Why?
     
  8. Why should religion be banned? Because so much blood has been shed in its name, I suppose. But it cannot be banned, for some reason it rears its head up again and again. Man's irrationality.
     
  9. If that is what the majority wants, then it is democracy! And since "Most want neither theocracy nor secular democracy but a third model in which religious principles and democratic values coexist. They want their own democratic model that draws on Islamic law as a source.", -- Islamic democracy is not an oxymoron.
     
  10. Is it a fault of religion or people who shed blood in its name?
     
  11. Yes, but to play the devil's advocate, if their law allows women to be oppressed or allows slavery for example, then is it true democracy?
     
  12. And what is TRUE democracy, if not a dictate of majority? :)
     
  13. There is an important caveat to democratic thought and philosophy - and that is - the rights of all must be protected from[\b] the will of majority. This usually has to do with minority rights (ethnic, racial, religious, gender preference etc.), but can also apply to females as, relative to males, they have much less power.
     
  14. And what is TRUE democracy, if not a dictate of majority? :)[/quote]

    There is an important caveat to democratic thought and philosophy - and that is - the rights of all must be protected from[\b] the will of majority. This usually has to do with minority rights (ethnic, racial, religious, gender preference etc.), but can also apply to females as, relative to males, they have much less power.[/quote]

    That is if they feel their rights were violated. If they don't?
     


  15. If a slave is not educated in what his innate human rights are, does that make the violation of those rights any the less of a violation? :wink: