Is global warming over?

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“Global Warming is over, and Global Warming Theory has failed. There is no evidence that CO2 drives world temperatures or any consequent climate change,” Imperial College London astrophysicist and long-range forecaster Piers Corbyn wrote British Members of Parliament on October 28. “According to official data in every year since 1998, world temperatures have been colder than that year, yet CO2 has been rising rapidly.” That evening, as the House of Commons debated legislation on so-called “global-warming,” October snow fell in London for the first time since 1922.

These observations parallel those of five German researchers led by Professor Noel Keenlyside of the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences. “Our results suggest that global surface temperature may not increase over the next decade,” they concluded in last May’s Nature, “as natural climate variations in the North Atlantic and tropical Pacific temporarily offset the projected anthropogenic [man-made] warming.” This “lull” should doom the 0.54 degree Fahrenheit average global temperature rise predicted by the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the Vatican of so-called “global warming.” Incidentally, the IPCC’s computer models factor in neither El Niño nor the Gulf Stream. Excluding such major climate variables would be like ESPN ignoring baseball and basketball.

America’s biased, pro-“warming” media holistically overlooked this paper in one of Earth’s most serious and respected scientific journals. Had these researchers forecast the years of higher temperatures, you would have heard about it, ad infinitum.
 
#2
Of course the green industry have renamed it Climate Change now so they get to keep their jobs. Do keep up. ;)
 
#3
Did it ever start or was it simply a case of this planet doing what it has long done without us and carrying on doing what it will do long after us.
 
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Well theres no global in Germany, its ferking freezing here.

Dumped a load of snow last night too :x
 
#5
Of course it was always a load of boll0cks. It started when some poepole were actually listened to even though their research was flawed. Then the monster grew and grew to the point that it is now a multi billion dollar industry. Theres too much invested in it now for it not to be true, so they rename it and move the goal posts every few years and march on regardless.
 
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blindfire said:
Well theres no global in Germany, its ferking freezing here.

Dumped a load of snow last night too :x
Not as cold as it used to be, -15C was the norm in the 70s and 80s.
Global warming? :wink:
 
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Drlligaf said:
blindfire said:
Well theres no global in Germany, its ferking freezing here.

Dumped a load of snow last night too :x
Not as cold as it used to be, -15C was the norm in the 70s and 80s.
Global warming? :wink:
I do remember one Ex being called off in 88 as it was so fking cold, after we'd been out a week of course :D
 
#8
All I know is it used to snow to the depth of a foot or more two or three times a year where I live as little as 15 years ago. Now we usually only get a couple of dustings.
 
#10
This was done to death on arrse not too long ago and upshot was:-

The pro-warming brigade saying "well what if it is true, theres no harm in reducing CO2" total waste of time talking to them really.

Its true that they have re-named it all now but if the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere did drive it then we should all be swimming by now.......pfft.
 
#11
Global warming never was. Even now they call it climate change in an atempt to cover for the fact it was all bollox it is still a con.
The climate may change but its nothing to do with mankind, its called evolution and the planet has been doing it since the big bang.
Of course it is far easier to rob the public blind with environmental legislation than think up real reason for taxation. it has simply been used as a cash cow by government.

Now science is starting to admit its screwed up I can't see taxes being reduced as a result. Perhaps it may become a little easier to generate electricity once it is properly debunked.
 
#12
Good. Thankfully I've ripped the catalytic converters off my massive V8 to give it even more power. I'm going to de tune it slightly so it chucks out even more CO2. Luckily it already produces enough CO2 to fill an entire solar system. I'll then strap a couple of Foxes to the exhausts just to piss the animal rights freaks off.
 
#13
I asked one of my friends who fancies himself to be a proponent of the global-warming/climate-change/etc crowd, "Well, how high will the sea rise if the icecaps melt?" whereupon he quoth "At least 6 inches!"

Well, that's me frightened then... :D

I told him that as the Romans at one time grew grapevines on "that nice south-facing wall built by Hadrian" to get back to me when the Northerners started producing wine again. Until then, the govt can fack off with their taxes.
 
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jagman said:
Global warming never was. Even now they call it climate change in an atempt to cover for the fact it was all bollox it is still a con.
The climate may change but its nothing to do with mankind, its called evolution and the planet has been doing it since the big bang.
Of course it is far easier to rob the public blind with environmental legislation than think up real reason for taxation. it has simply been used as a cash cow by government.

Now science is starting to admit its screwed up I can't see taxes being reduced as a result. Perhaps it may become a little easier to generate electricity once it is properly debunked.

We've hammered this to death on previous threads on ARRSE. Those who don't believe never will. Either way, a single report in a newspaper doesn't mean that climate change is debunked... As a single cool (or warm) year doesn't mean that climate has changed, this is simply called weather.

Sorry to be a pedantic tw@, but changes in the earth's climate are not evolution (although climatic shifts can lead to evolution).



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old_nis said:
I asked one of my friends who fancies himself to be a proponent of the global-warming/climate-change/etc crowd, "Well, how high will the sea rise if the icecaps melt?" whereupon he quoth "At least 6 inches!"

Well, that's me frightened then... :D

I told him that as the Romans at one time grew grapevines on "that nice south-facing wall built by Hadrian" to get back to me when the Northerners started producing wine again. Until then, the govt can fack off with their taxes.
Bloke down the pub might not be the best source of info. By the 2080s cockneys might need to think about moving upstairs during the winter, as UKCIP02 (see here) suggest increases of ca. 70 cm under the high emissions scenario...
 
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Not that I've met him, but I think that the Big Man (God) was a bit cleverer than the average human being, and all eventualities were accounted for. And us humans being a bunch of cnuts with his planet was well within his long term business plan for planet earth.

However, I just wish that he could do something with our Mr Brown...
 
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Schleswig-Holstein said:
jagman said:
Global warming never was. Even now they call it climate change in an atempt to cover for the fact it was all bollox it is still a con.
The climate may change but its nothing to do with mankind, its called evolution and the planet has been doing it since the big bang.
Of course it is far easier to rob the public blind with environmental legislation than think up real reason for taxation. it has simply been used as a cash cow by government.

Now science is starting to admit its screwed up I can't see taxes being reduced as a result. Perhaps it may become a little easier to generate electricity once it is properly debunked.

We've hammered this to death on previous threads on ARRSE. Those who don't believe never will. Either way, a single report in a newspaper doesn't mean that climate change is debunked... As a single cool (or warm) year doesn't mean that climate has changed, this is simply called weather.

Sorry to be a pedantic tw@, but changes in the earth's climate are not evolution (although climatic shifts can lead to evolution).



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You are right, it has been done to death repeatedly, however science still refuses to take into account that this planets weather has been constantly on the change throughout its history.
Whichever way it is painted there is no evidence to support global warming, so little infact that we have now changed its name to climate change to cover a few more bases.
There is also no evidence to suggest that mankind has any impact on the weather at all. There is a lot of supposition, largely supported by those with a vested interest, but no conclusive evidence at all.
 
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Global Precession affects Temperature as the Earth tilts on its axis and lists to and from the sun over a period of time, also, we have only been keeping records of weather for a couple of hundred years, the Earth is millions of years old and has gone through many "ice Ages" and periods of increased temperature. Seems like blaming Co2 is a nice little earner for governments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precession

Edited as i forgot to add linky!
 
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davyskuller said:
Global Precession affects Temperature as the Earth tilts on its axis and lists to and from the sun over a period of time, also, we have only been keeping records of weather for a couple of hundred years, the Earth is millions of years old and has gone through many "ice Ages" and periods of increased temperature. Seems lik blaming Co2 is a nice little earner for governments.
And its worked, as using a car is now classed as a henious crime.

Never mind the fact that a cow farts and burps more methane a day than a Land Rover produces Carbon Monoxide. But still they beleive every word that our government speils.
 

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