Is family in hhcav essential for officer entry

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Im looking to join household cavalry as an officer when I finish 6 form. However, a couple of my mates have told me that they don't let you in unless you have some sort of family connection to the regiment.

Sounds like bs but just wanted to ask
 
You answered your own question there. Your leg is being pulled.
 
Im looking to join household cavalry as an officer when I finish 6 form. However, a couple of my mates have told me that they don't let you in unless you have some sort of family connection to the regiment.

Sounds like bs but just wanted to ask


Could you afford the substantial mess bills encountered in the HH cav?
 
No such thing. All cavalry regiments have mess bills that are completely affordable on a 2Lt salary.
Would our notional 2lt have any money left to spend on other things though?

A friend of mine who came from a respectable background went for one of the “visits” to a cav regiment where, I believe, his grandfather had served with distinction. During his departure chat with the CO he was told they would happily take him. However, he had to consider his ability to lead the social life outside the army sphere enjoyed by the other young officers who used to scoot off skiing, sailing, etc.

He did join, and became an ATO.

Back in the mists of time I used to pop in and out of the guards depot, Pirbright, scrounging stuff and got to,know a couple of the NCO’s beasting the recruits who were effectively the potential officers for the guards and the HH cav. I remember one time someone talking about an expectation to join the Guards Polo Club. True, or BS?
 
I believe (anecdotally, mind) that HCAV are fairly open minded as to officer selection. They will only want to take the committed, so express an interest as early as possible, ask to visit so you and they can see if you fit and remain keen. You don’t say what your university ambitions are, they can also help steer you if they like the cut of your jib. You will need their buy-in for that, and RMAS.
As an officer cadet, you have to really join with a sponsor, or a really good idea where you want to end up. Or you get what you are given.
Good luck with your future career!
 
Would our notional 2lt have any money left to spend on other things though?

A friend of mine who came from a respectable background went for one of the “visits” to a cav regiment where, I believe, his grandfather had served with distinction. During his departure chat with the CO he was told they would happily take him. However, he had to consider his ability to lead the social life outside the army sphere enjoyed by the other young officers who used to scoot off skiing, sailing, etc.

He did join, and became an ATO.

Back in the mists of time I used to pop in and out of the guards depot, Pirbright, scrounging stuff and got to,know a couple of the NCO’s beasting the recruits who were effectively the potential officers for the guards and the HH cav. I remember one time someone talking about an expectation to join the Guards Polo Club. True, or BS?
Fair point. It’s not the mess bills, it can be the extras. For Cav, it was the polo that could be expensive. Not compulsory, though.
 

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Would our notional 2lt have any money left to spend on other things though?
Yes, loads. The days of massive mess bills passed at least 30 years ago.

I remember one time someone talking about an expectation to join the Guards Polo Club. True, or BS?
That's plausible, but probably also something that ended a couple of decades ago as a minimum. There's certainly no requirement now.
 
Yes, loads. The days of massive mess bills passed at least 30 years ago.



That's plausible, but probably also something that ended a couple of decades ago as a minimum. There's certainly no requirement now.
Its not a 'strict' requirement to join the Guards and Cavalry Club either for the old cavalry regiments but Albertous Junior's regimental rep at Sandbags very strongly suggested he better get his arse to London to apply before this Friday (CC 183s Sovereigns Parade). Guess what Albertous Junior was doing in London last weekend?
 
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Its not a 'strict' requirement to join the Guards and Cavalry Club either for the old cavalry regiments but Albertous Junior's regimental rep at Sandbags very strongly suggested he better get his arse to London to apply before this Friday (CC 183s Sovereigns Parade). Guess what Albertous Junior was doing in London last weekend?
I have to say, as a longtime member of the neighbouring RAF Club, that the food is disitinctly better in C&G. But rather pricey.
 
Mess bills in HCR and HCMR are entirely self inflicted - the more you consume, the more you pay. Even 30 years ago, subs and extra messing were no more than in any other unit. Added to which, there has always been a convention in HCAV that you never stand each other drinks. We don’t do chits so even if you offer a drink to another officer, the mess staff will always bill the consumer of each drink.

Polo, hunting, skiing etc are all extras and no one is under any pressure to partake. You are no less a Househild Cavalry Officer if your chosen pastime is whitewater canoeing or full bore shooting.
 
If excepted to RMA Sandhurst you do not need to make your regiment choice till the 2nd term.
You're view might have changed by then if you are not a HCR sponsored cadet.
Lots of other opportunities out there to look at and a degree might help?
The UOTC could give you an insight to Army life & would show you other units on offer.
 
I have to say, as a longtime member of the neighbouring RAF Club, that the food is disitinctly better in C&G. But rather pricey.
My mistake Cavalry & Guards not the other way around.
 

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Possibly not the extras though!
C do your lot still do racehorses
I think the only unit that has a private stable is the KRH to keep their polo team going, but I believe that's not subsidised by mess members who don't play. There's really no need to engage in 'extras' at any cavalry unit now. Almost nobody has a private income these days so if the costs of any activity would outstrip a 2Lt's salary then it probably won't happen.

Cavalry mess bills tend to be a little higher than other units but that's because the cavalry tend to socialise in the mess more. As a subbie my mess bill would usually hit around the £700 mark. That seems high, but it included all of my food and drinks for the month so it's really not too bad.

Its not a 'strict' requirement to join the Guards and Cavalry Club either for the old cavalry regiments but Albertous Junior's regimental rep at Sandbags very strongly suggested he better get his arse to London to apply before this Friday
I'd recommend the same. The cost is negligible and it's a great base to have when in London on the weekends. The single rooms in the basement are probably the cheapest place to stay in London, and Robert, the night porter, is always willing to upgrade junior officers to a double room if they find themselves in need of one at 2am...
 
I think the only unit that has a private stable is the KRH to keep their polo team going, but I believe that's not subsidised by mess members who don't play. There's really no need to engage in 'extras' at any cavalry unit now. Almost nobody has a private income these days so if the costs of any activity would outstrip a 2Lt's salary then it probably won't happen.

Cavalry mess bills tend to be a little higher than other units but that's because the cavalry tend to socialise in the mess more. As a subbie my mess bill would usually hit around the £700 mark. That seems high, but it included all of my food and drinks for the month so it's really not too bad.



I'd recommend the same. The cost is negligible and it's a great base to have when in London on the weekends. The single rooms in the basement are probably the cheapest place to stay in London, and Robert, the night porter, is always willing to upgrade junior officers to a double room if they find themselves in need of one at 2am...
A grand a year for the most fantastic ambiance, what's not to like about it. The pictures of Kaiser Willie and Oliver Cromwell do add some cracking conversational opportunities.
 
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