IS Engineer - Good bits and bad bits please tell all!

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Theres more but I'll stop there.

The key thing missing from your post is your opinion and the context.

Have you just found out how to use the internet and now think you can be a clever d1ck stirring up trade banter? Too slow and old news sorry bud.

Or are you looking at either joining up as or transfering to the IS roster, this is ok but what is important is what are YOUR views and concerns? This will determine how the guys in the know will help you out.

So back to you...
 
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Greengoblin, what kind of things do you want to know? What the job is like compared to others, or what the people are like compared to others? We often get petty arrseholes on here trying to snipe at various trade groups, so it would be useful to know a wee bit about your own background. Are you from another capbadge and considering trying to transfer? We can help if you're genuinely interested.

Alternatively we could start a trade war. Yay...how exciting!

PD
 
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greengoblin said:
I was wondering do IS Engineers get put in the HQ Sqn of a regiment all the time or would they be in the normal squadrons.
Are there many female IS engineers? Average promotion, etc?
GG, regarding where someone works, there's a mixed bag actually. Most units have IS Engrs working in the main Sqns now, because the equipment is mainline Sqn business. Some other places they are working in little specialist teams such as HQ Sqns. My last 2 units had very few people left in HQ Sqn, they were all "farmed out". It all depends on the Regt's role really, although the very nature of the job means that most normal deployments involve working in a headquarters of some sort.

The female members of the trade are doing pretty well all in all (I'm pretty sure some funny git will slag us off for having excessive œstrogen) and there are half-a-dozen female WOs out there, but like all the other trades in the Army (except maybe the AGC clerks), it's mainly blokes. Promotion is a touchy subject for some. The current demand is far outstripping the supply, so many people feel that promotion is coming far too quickly at the moment. The only bottleneck is really up at SNCO level - Sgt to SSgt. The short answer is that if you are qualified and recommended by your chain of command then you have a good chance of promotion.
 
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I look like a bloody amateur now. Doh!

Bloody thing said database error, so I went back to try it again a couple of times. Then gave up and sent a PM instead.

Sorry guys I've let you down and I've let myself down. :oops:
 
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And this is supposed to be a thread from about Information Systems specialists? Wow, I'm stunned by how fantastic I must be as an RAF IT geek compared to army ones - I know how to use a search engine AND how to post a message just the once!!!

:)
 
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furq said:
I'm stunned by how fantastic I must be as an RAF IT geek compared to army ones
So rumours of civvies having to hack LDCN in order to support ICS apps as the RAF IT guys were so shit are not true........... or did I just start that one :twisted:
 
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furq said:
And this is supposed to be a thread from about Information Systems specialists? Wow, I'm stunned by how fantastic I must be as an RAF IT geek compared to army ones - I know how to use a search engine AND how to post a message just the once!!!

:)
He's probably on a DII terminal
 
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furq said:
And this is supposed to be a thread from about Information Systems specialists? Wow, I'm stunned by how fantastic I must be as an RAF IT geek compared to army ones - I know how to use a search engine AND how to post a message just the once!!!

:)
Nah, I was just being a mong. The rest of my roster are awesome, it's just me who doesn't know how to use a webpage.

Funnily enough, I want to look into the RAF trade group 4 and what they do, or are able to do and what they are trained in. I will PM you furq, if that's OK. Have you got a link to any information regarding the trade?
 
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Hi PoisonDwarf, hope you appreciate my tongue was planted firmly in my cheek!!!

http://www.raf.mod.uk/careers/jobs/ictspecialist.cfm

should tell you all the official spin on the trade, you'll probably get a better feel for it if you have a look around e-goat (RAF equivalent(ish) of ARRSE). My personal opinion is that it was a great idea implemented very poorly.

Essentially 2 previous trades have been amalgamated into 1 trade, but there are still 2 streams. My stream is CIS Technician, so we do more in-depth technical hands on stuff, while the other stream is CIS Information Manager and their role is accounts, systems etc.

If you want any more info ask on here or via PM.

:)
 
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furq said:
Essentially 2 previous trades have been amalgamated into 1 trade, but there are still 2 streams. My stream is CIS Technician, so we do more in-depth technical hands on stuff, while the other stream is CIS Information Manager and their role is accounts, systems etc.
Sounds a wee bit like maintainer/operator and operator/maintainer respectively.
 
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polar said:
I hear an echo
It could also be a Deep ping or maybe a Shallow Ping or is he Keeping Alive :p
 

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furq said:
Essentially 2 previous trades have been amalgamated into 1 trade, but there are still 2 streams. My stream is CIS Technician, so we do more in-depth technical hands on stuff, while the other stream is CIS Information Manager and their role is accounts, systems etc.
:)
The difference between RAF TG4a and IS engineers is immense - I agree with FURQ; concept is great except the crabs (in their desire to grab ground) didn't look at employment. The TG4 crowd are a real mixed bag, ex-TCC/TCO's, Tech and CIS types. Which creates a major drama if you're expecting an IS engineer type (all broadly similar skills/experience) - what you get are two who are never the same. IS Engineers were the same but the spec is more mature.

I think (IMHO) that TG4 people have a good future as the applications specialists and IM/IX types leaving infrastructure to the IS Engineers. Of course I'm generalising, there are bucket loads of TG4 on "the wing" and in other jobs who are technically competant across the board but at the moment that skills/experience set hasn't spread across the entire (mahoosive) community. Until then......

and what was it the TG4 trade sponsor (Kev W) said at Brize "your're fukced"
 
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an obvious one, even if you are a youngling, transferable skills for civ st. any half decent IS Engr, irrespective of rank can pull a job outside. I am an ex IS Engr and can confirm that civ st holds no worries for you guys. It may seem a long way off, but the day does come.

Met far too many good blokes outside doing shitey jobs because they could not directly transfer their skills.
 

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