Is Des Browne to be Replaced?

#1
This IS from a local paper - the North West Evening News, after the Torygraph ran the story

HUTTON TIPPED FOR DEFENCE JOB

OFFICIALS for Furness MP John Hutton were tightlipped today over reports suggesting he was set to head the Ministry of Defence.

The Daily Telegraph claims Mr Hutton is being “lined up” to replace Defence Secretary Des Browne in a cabinet reshuffle over the summer.

Terry Waiting, chairman of the Keep Our Future Afloat Campaign, which strives to secure fresh shipyard orders and safeguard jobs in the process, would welcome such a move.

Councillor Waiting believes Mr Hutton would make a very competent defence minister.

He said: “I think John Hutton as Secretary of State for Defence would be a boon for Barrow-in-Furness, not just as far as the shipbuilding industry is concerned but for all the armed forces.”
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
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#2
Can't be any worse than what we have now
Although I assume it's only to the next election

The Rt Hon John Hutton MP

John Hutton was appointed the first Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform when the new Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform (BERR) was created by Gordon Brown in June 2007. BERR will help create the conditions for business success and promote productivity and enterprise, across Government and within the EU.

Prior to that he was Secretary of State Department of Work and Pensions.

John Hutton entered the Cabinet as Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster in May 2005. He was Minister of State with responsibility for Social Care at the Department of Health from 1999 and took on responsibility for Health in June 2001.

Before his election to Parliament he was a senior law lecturer at the University of Northumbria. After his election, from 1994 to 1997, he served on the Select Committee for Home Affairs.

He was Parliamentary Private Secretary to Margaret Beckett, both while she was President of the Board of Trade and Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (1997-1998), and in her role as President of the Council and Leader of the House of Commons (1998). Mr Hutton was appointed Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Health and Social Care in Oct 1998.

Mr Hutton was born on 6 May 1955 and was educated at Westcliffe High School and Magdalen College Oxford. He has three sons and one daughter.
 

Sixty

ADC
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#3
# Has never voted on a transparent Parliament. votes, speeches
# Voted a mixture of for and against introducing a smoking ban. votes, speeches
# Voted strongly for introducing ID cards.
# Voted very strongly for introducing foundation hospitals.
# Voted very strongly for introducing student top-up fees.
# Voted very strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws.
# Voted very strongly for the Iraq war.
# Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war
# Voted very strongly for replacing Trident.
# Voted very strongly for the hunting ban.
# Voted moderately for equal gay rights.

Looks like a party drone / lobby fodder to me. Can't see much difference to the clown we have now except it'll take away the Tories jibe that he's a part-time SoS for Defence.
 
#4
the_boy_syrup said:
Can't be any worse than what we have now
Although I assume it's only to the next election

The Rt Hon John Hutton MP

John Hutton was appointed the first Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform when the new Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform (BERR) was created by Gordon Brown in June 2007. BERR will help create the conditions for business success and promote productivity and enterprise, across Government and within the EU.

Prior to that he was Secretary of State Department of Work and Pensions.

John Hutton entered the Cabinet as Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster in May 2005. He was Minister of State with responsibility for Social Care at the Department of Health from 1999 and took on responsibility for Health in June 2001.

Before his election to Parliament he was a senior law lecturer at the University of Northumbria. After his election, from 1994 to 1997, he served on the Select Committee for Home Affairs.

He was Parliamentary Private Secretary to Margaret Beckett, both while she was President of the Board of Trade and Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (1997-1998), and in her role as President of the Council and Leader of the House of Commons (1998). Mr Hutton was appointed Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Health and Social Care in Oct 1998.

Mr Hutton was born on 6 May 1955 and was educated at Westcliffe High School and Magdalen College Oxford. He has three sons and one daughter.
Am I right in guessing then that yet another "haven't got a fuckin' clue about the real world or defence" Neu Arbiet Nomenklatura Apparatchik has got lucky....?
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
Book Reviewer
#5
Kitmarlowe said:
the_boy_syrup said:
Can't be any worse than what we have now
Although I assume it's only to the next election

The Rt Hon John Hutton MP

John Hutton was appointed the first Secretary of State for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform when the new Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform (BERR) was created by Gordon Brown in June 2007. BERR will help create the conditions for business success and promote productivity and enterprise, across Government and within the EU.

Prior to that he was Secretary of State Department of Work and Pensions.

John Hutton entered the Cabinet as Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster in May 2005. He was Minister of State with responsibility for Social Care at the Department of Health from 1999 and took on responsibility for Health in June 2001.

Before his election to Parliament he was a senior law lecturer at the University of Northumbria. After his election, from 1994 to 1997, he served on the Select Committee for Home Affairs.

He was Parliamentary Private Secretary to Margaret Beckett, both while she was President of the Board of Trade and Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (1997-1998), and in her role as President of the Council and Leader of the House of Commons (1998). Mr Hutton was appointed Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Health and Social Care in Oct 1998.

Mr Hutton was born on 6 May 1955 and was educated at Westcliffe High School and Magdalen College Oxford. He has three sons and one daughter.
Am I right in guessing then that yet another "haven't got a *' clue about the real world or defence" Neu Arbiet Nomenklatura Apparatchik has got lucky....?
Yep I think you are
 
#6
Kitmarlowe said:
Am I right in guessing then that yet another "haven't got a *' clue about the real world or defence" Neu Arbiet Nomenklatura Apparatchik has got lucky....?
Lucky?

Inheriting the sh1te that Bliar, Broon and half/Broon have given him?

There is some merit in the view that taking over from a total to66er can benefit your career ... I did it at least twice, and it did me no harm. But the Defence portfolio would not be a happy prospect after the fukc-ups of the last decade or so.
 
#8
Can't be any worse can he even if he is a 'yes man'!?
 
#9
Yes, he is going to be replaced. By a small egg-plant.

They've finally realised they need a significant step-up in capability.
 
#10
cant they find anyone with any military experience, oh forgot its the labiar party.
 

Biped

LE
Book Reviewer
#11
Is this the same John Hutton who headed the whitew . . . enquiry into David Kelly, the dead scientist under contract to the MOD?

If so, I'm sure he'll be a very popular, skilled, devoted, respected, upstanding, careful, thorough . . . aaah nurse, thank gawd you've arrived - just in time for me pills!

Watch out Mr Dannat Sir - stay away from the woods today!
 
#13
psychobabble said:
The comment about him being good for Barrow and Vickers/BAe is mainly because he's the constituency MP for Barrow in Furness!
Well at least he'll lobby for more orders for the BAE shipyard in Barrow then. Wanna buy a couple of extra Astute subs Admiral? :wink:

Broon's constituency includes Rosyth dockyard. Spookily enough, it's never been in danger of closure during Neu Arbeits occupation of the UK... Even more spooky is that a lot of the work assembling CVF is due to be carried out there...... :roll:
 
#15
Kitmarlowe said:
Am I right in guessing then that yet another "haven't got a *' clue about the real world or defence" Neu Arbiet Nomenklatura Apparatchik has got lucky....?
You get a cigar. A vast complex multi-billion department is going to be managed by someone with - wait for it - no relevant experience.

For those wondering why government departments are so relentlessly incompetent and inefficient, look no further.

But it's true, you'd see an improvement even if you replaced Des Browne with a 50-litre bag of ericaceous compost, so this Hutton could hardly be worse. (No, he's not the Hutton who whitewashed the Kelly affair. Different tosspot.)

I'm not cynical and bitter, me.
 
#16
Invicta said:
psychobabble said:
The comment about him being good for Barrow and Vickers/BAe is mainly because he's the constituency MP for Barrow in Furness!
Well at least he'll lobby for more orders for the BAE shipyard in Barrow then. Wanna buy a couple of extra Astute subs Admiral? :wink:

Broon's constituency includes Rosyth dockyard. Spookily enough, it's never been in danger of closure during Neu Arbeits occupation of the UK... Even more spooky is that a lot of the work assembling CVF is due to be carried out there...... :roll:
And which yard has the work of building the megablocks for both carriers, which are assembled at Rosyth - are they in the Prime Ministers constituency?

:roll:
 
#18
Yes he sings off the Broon song sheet but to be fair Hutton is a pragmatist, does have some balls and a track record of sorting out some really sh1tty issues at a practical level. That is why, even as an ultra Blairite, he has survived under the Broon Terror.

None of that means he will be able to do a good job because there is so much ugly history and so many horrible funding issues to hamper the best intentions of anyone flying that desk. He will have to take the tough decisions that Des has fudged and that will not make him popular.

But if it cames to a choice between him or the lame Swiss Des it is a no brainer.
 

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