Is authorisation from higher needed to collect for help for heroes???

hi all, im considering taking a few of my guys down town to edinburgh with collection pots and help for heroes wrists bands, all legit and got them from their website!
intention is to obviously raises a bit of coin for H4H's!
just been told i have to seek authorisation from a 1 star or above? is someone yanking my chain or what??
feedback would be greatly appreciated!!
thanks guys M
JSP Guidelines:


The following are the extracts from the MOD policy and guidance on Charities (JSP 462, JSP 800 & JSP 368).

JSP 462 Financial Management Policy Manual
Chapter 19: Sound Governance: Regularity and Propriety in Public Expenditure

Introduction. This chapter illustrates what is, and what is not, proper behaviour in the management of public funds, and provides guidance on distinguishing these from non-public funds. This guidance is in line with Managing Public Money (MPM), a Treasury publication which sets out the rules for managing and controlling public expenditure and is the ultimate reference manual for finance staff. In controlling public expenditure there are two main requirements to follow in terms of Regularity and Propriety – definitions can be found under Key Points section.

Key Points
4. Personal implications of failing to observe Regularity and Propriety:
a. Failure to observe financial regularity and propriety constitutes an abuse of financial authority. History shows that the prime cause of abuse of financial authority cases is the absence of proper control or failure to observe existing controls. Those best placed to detect and deter incidents are those directly involved in an activity at risk. That is why the prime responsibility for establishing controls to deter and detect fraud and theft and for reporting suspicions rests with line management at all levels.
b. PUS is personally responsible to Parliament for ensuring that MOD has sound controls in place. Accordingly, PUS is notified of the number of “abuse of financial authority” cases as part of the annual Health of Financial Systems exercise.
c. All staff should be aware that such abuse can lead to disciplinary action being taken against the individual or individuals involved, even where there is no personal gain.

Donations by MOD to External Bodies
2. Public money is intended only for public sector uses, and for the purposes for which money is voted by Parliament. The financial delegations granted to departments by the Treasury on behalf of Parliament do not allow for any exceptions to this ruling. So MOD only has authority to expend money on delivering its normal business.
3. MOD can contribute funding to external bodies through grant or grant-in-aid (see JSP 462 under Transactions Chapter Cool where there is a specific and quantifiable benefit to the Department, i.e. where it contributes to the Department’s objectives, but it cannot subsidise any non-public organisation on purely charitable grounds. This would turn public money into non-public and amount to irregular expenditure. All charities, including those with MOD or Armed Service connections, should be treated as non-public bodies for funding purposes and charging purposes. The generalised and unquantifiable benefits of individual units supporting charities are not sufficient justification for any divergence from normal financial regulations.
4. It is common practice for Service personnel to take on duties ancillary to their main function. These may include, for example, roles in connection with non-publicly funded activities that contribute to unit welfare, such as regimental associations and sports clubs. Commanding Officers and unit budget managers must ensure that the necessary controls are put in place to manage these activities to minimise the risk to public funds and to recognise and deal with any potential conflicts of interest or loyalty that might arise. Further guidance can be found in JSP 770 Tri-Service Operational and Non-Operational Welfare Policy and DIN 2009 01-133.
5. Under no circumstances should MOD provide cash (or cash in kind) to any charity except where it is provided by grant or grant-in-aid. Members of staff (both Service and Civilian) who wish to support a charity should do so in their own time using their own resources. Public money must not be used for private benefit no matter how worthy the cause.

Charging for MOD Services
12. The only basis on which it is permissible for MOD to make assets or services available for purely private and charitable purposes is if the Department is reimbursed an appropriate charge (see JSP 368). This applies equally to the use of Service manpower and to the provision of equipment or facilities. A failure to charge or to charge less than appropriate rate equates to a decision to spend public money. 2nd PUS has directed that the SFO in each TLB is responsible for approving the participation of Service personnel or Service assets in charity events and deciding on the charging regime to be applied. Where Tri-Service participation is requested, a lead TLB/SFO will be nominated.

Accounting Arrangements
13. It is not good financial practice to mix public and non-public funds. Accordingly, MOD banking facilities should not be used to administer non-public funds except on a repayment basis. In all circumstances, there must be a clear separation between public and non-public funds. Similarly, MOD should not assume any insurance liability in respect of non-public activities. Guidance on the principles and practice of raising charges is given in JSP 368, which takes precedence over any other publication or guidance on this subject.

JSP 800 Defence Movements and Transport Regulations
Volume 5 Road Transport
Part 2 Chapter 2

Charity Events
2.2.101 Charity Events. To avoid criticism for the improper use of public funds and for favouring one charity over another, it is MOD policy not to support charities or charitable events without recovering costs (JSP 368). In exceptional circumstances, where the marginal costs are nil and the event can be justified as in the wider interest of the MOD, consideration may be given to the use of MOD vehicles for charity events on a case-by case basis. Prior permission must be sought from TLB / FLC and Fin Pol (see non-public & charity template). Vehicle hire is not permitted.

Introduced at (Pt 2 Ch 2 Non-Public Funded Events)
1. In exceptional circumstances units may apply to their TLB/FLC HQ for authority to use MOD road transport for charity, non-public funded events and commercial displays. Events will not be authorised if they contradict any other MOD regulations. The procedure and content of the application process is detailed below:

Unit Procedure
2. A concise business case is to be submitted to the TLB/FLC HQ Tpt Staffs to include the following:
a. Unit Contact details & Sponsor of request.
b. Details of Event being proposed (Date and location).
c. Why the event is in the wider interest of the MOD i.e. why should the MOD support the event (media involvement, local interest etc.).
d. Number and types of vehicle to be used (Green Fleet or White Fleet). The hiring of vehicles (including backfill of pool cars) is not permitted.
e. Estimated distance to be travelled (miles).
f. Financial Objective (see JSP 368).

TLB/FLC HQ Tpt Staffs Procedure
3. TLB/FLC HQ Tpt Staffs are to action the application as follows:
a. Check that the application does not contradict current regulations on duty travel. If it does not, FLC/TLB tpt staffs decide to support/not support the application. If not supported, the application should be returned to the unit.
b. If supported: Tpt staffs pass to Fin Dept for financial approval & Cmd Sec dept to ensure it complies with MOD regularity and propriety rules. If not supported, the application should be returned to the unit.
c. If supported: Fin Dept, Cmd Sec and tpt staffs should add any recovery payment (green fleet only) costs, if required, or any caveats on the proposal.
d. Inform unit of TLB/FLC HQ decision and any further action required prior to event.
e. Pass information of the event to DMTP who will keep a central MOD record of authority given.
Part II:

Chapter 3 Charging Policy

3.29 There are no special arrangements for the treatment of charities, whether Service or other. MoD must avoid criticism for the improper use of publicly funded assets – and for the favouring of one charity over another, which is a possibility unless an entirely consistent policy is applied. The fact that charities are to be the main beneficiary of a good or service (or of a military event) is therefore not sufficient justification to introduce a special charging regime or to set charges aside.

Annex 4.3 Engagement in Organised Activities By Service Personnel

20. There are many activities which are undertaken in support of local, national and Service charities. While charities represent worthy causes, they are not subject to special charging arrangements and should be treated in the same way as any other external organisations. The Department cannot
subsidise charities simply because they have an MOD or Armed Forces connection, and it is important that the Department is not seen to be raising expectations that no charges will be levied. Moreover, the Department must not be seen to be treating one charity more favourably than another.

Impartiality, Conflict of Interest, Fraud and Corruption
21. Requests for the participation of service personnel in events by external organisations must be viewed objectively. The Department must be careful not to favour an event where there is personal interest or gain. Particularly, the case for engaging in an event should not be exaggerated in
order to gain support when in reality the main beneficiary is the external body rather than defence. Careful judgement must be exercised to ensure that the case for supporting an event organised by an external body is a balanced one.
22. Support to an event organised by an external body should be given only where it is deemed to be in the defence interest and not due to exertion of an individual Crown Servant who may have a close association with the external body (e.g. personal interest, private membership or association with
the organisation). The acceptance of ‘considerations’ by Crown Servants, e.g. in return for favourable terms in setting up an event or hospitality could lead to accusations of conflicts of interest, fraud or corruption. It is important that any association with an external organisation (member of the board, private interests, hospitality etc) is declared by any Crown Servants involved from the outset.
23. In the first instance advice from local corporate governance team should be sought for the Gifts, Rewards and Hospitality Annex which addresses conflict of interest, fraud and corruption.

Annex 4.5 Transport
11. Requests from charities for air transport in connection with assistance to overseas countries should be directed in the first instance to the Department for International Development (DfID), which may be funded to pay for such assistance or may be prepared to sponsor it on behalf of the UK Government. Should such a request be denied by DfID and the MoD still be approached, the fact that the customer is a charity is not a valid reason to reduce charges below full cost.
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