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Irish republican Army

sirbhp

LE
Book Reviewer
#1
my granddad was allegedly in the ira in the 1916 uprising. I took his meagre details to a family history fair and went to the Eire Desk. " oh , he must have been one of the other 6 million paddies in the post office that day "
Of course they were right, however he was a Lt in the Ira as opposed to the free state army in 1919/ 22 and apparently made captain.He was in transport I understand and took burnt out Catholics from Belfast down to Dublin.

He was a friend of the quare feller mike Collins and went to his funeral. with the other six million Dubliners !!

In 1954 he died and received a full military funeral all though he was a civy . so the story goes .

So how do i get hold of his records ? The barracks that used to have them moved them a few years back apparently .
the problem is that you get a different story for each family branch that you talk to
Can any one help me sort fact from family please .
Cheers troops
 
#3
my granddad was allegedly in the ira in the 1916 uprising. I took his meagre details to a family history fair and went to the Eire Desk. " oh , he must have been one of the other 6 million paddies in the post office that day "
Of course they were right, however he was a Lt in the Ira as opposed to the free state army in 1919/ 22 and apparently made captain.He was in transport I understand and took burnt out Catholics from Belfast down to Dublin.

He was a friend of the quare feller mike Collins and went to his funeral. with the other six million Dubliners !!

In 1954 he died and received a full military funeral all though he was a civy . so the story goes .

So how do i get hold of his records ? The barracks that used to have them moved them a few years back apparently .
the problem is that you get a different story for each family branch that you talk to
Can any one help me sort fact from family please .
Cheers troops


How about you get on with life and not bother - let the IRA disappear into the depths of history as a failure which promised much and thankfully failed to deliver.
 
#4
You missed a bit sirbhp. I know of two other people who tell the same story except their grandfathers had Major Percival (head of British intelligence later in command at Singapore when it fell) in their sights but the gun failed to fire.
Oddly the story about being in transport came up a lot as well when I lived in Dublin as did the full military funeral. As you said that GPO was very crowded in 1916.
Even the IRA had/has walts!
 
#5
My grandfather was not in the IRA, but had has business intimidated by a couple of IRA thugs.

Interesting thing is that this was in Arklow, a sleepy fishing village south of Dublin in the 1960s. They visited and intimidated him for being CoI and not a left footer and told him to leave. They phoned through a bomb-threat, being a POW survivor he passed it off as "a load of nonsense" and told them to get "proper jobs"...the time of the bomb-detonation came and went...he called their bluff, they never bothered him again!!
 

sirbhp

LE
Book Reviewer
#8
You missed a bit sirbhp. I know of two other people who tell the same story except their grandfathers had Major Percival (head of British intelligence later in command at Singapore when it fell) in their sights but the gun failed to fire.
Oddly the story about being in transport came up a lot as well when I lived in Dublin as did the full military funeral. As you said that GPO was very crowded in 1916.
Even the IRA had/has walts!
so true , there is a photo of him and three other bods but the person who has it wont do copies or let it out .
 

CanteenCowboy

LE
Book Reviewer
#13
It's a Court Of Inquiry, and when called into an Irish COI you must cross the threshold leading with your left foot, therefor 'leftfooter' someone who has attended a Irish COI (obviously you have to be called, not everybody who goes to watch can be called a leftfooter, otherwise Eire would be full of leftfooters)........................................................
 

skid2

LE
Book Reviewer
#14
Small world. Ms Skids grandad was a well known republican and an adc to James Connolly ( Hey Patrick how the **** do you spell Trotsky?) in those days 16 year old adcs' were posh runners.
Northerners were never really acknowledged in their 1916 rising. I suppose the Free State health and safety executive measured the interior of the Post Office and said 'Right so far there appears to be 5,000 volunteers who turned up on Easter Monday. We have no room for anyone from the North'. Funny that his rep was well known in Belfast yet there was never any official recognition from the South.
Of course my grandfather would have cheerfully had him hanged, never having forgiven the peace loving people of the markets for facilitating the throwing of a bomb at his motor.
One to hold a grudge, the RUC man responsible for holding my father up on the way home with fish suppers for the family was transferred to the border.

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#15
I used to work with a bloke who was a descendant of the man after whom Dublin named a railway station. He was a nice guy, keen to play down the connection.
 
#17
COI in this case I assume to be Church of Ireland. Protestants are often called leftfooters by RCs.

There was a lot of confusion within the various groups regarding the start of the rising.

The initial order to occupy the GPO etc were countermanded but not all got the message/ignored it, hence the low turnout and why those who had to travel long distances weren't as well represented.


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#20
i think the other posters testify differently chum.
Well here's one poster who thinks your grandad was a ****.

Ireland's future can only be decided at the ballot box. If the forebears of the IRA that I came up against in the 70's had taken that path, there would be a hell of a lot of people still alive today.
 

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