Iraqi conflict, 300 times more deadly than Northern Ireland!

#1
With figures released today of over 30,000 dead in a year, the Iraqi conflict in number terms is an amazing 300 times more deadly than a tour of Northern Ireland, (100 dead per year)

The guys out there are doing a fantastic job in really difficult circumstances, and i for one salute their efforts, thankfully the British death toll is not 300 times higher.

Paul
 
#3
With Respect to The R.U.C. who also served in very difficult circumstances, Northern Ireland was'nt a Policing conflict alone, if it was why send any troops?, without the prescence of 10,000 British troops, Northern Ireland might have been a united Ireland many years ago.

That campaign was a joint effort and the Regular Army, U.D.R. and R.UC. all played an important part.
 
#5
In an insurgency sadly its the civilian population that gets the worst of it. Despite that though US road accidents claim more lives at 44,000 last year. Perspective is everything.
 
#6
jonwilly said:
24 Inf Brd was sent in 69 to keep Southern Irish Army out.
the RoI also begged the BG, repeatedly, not to leave NI as they had no illusions about their ability to take control of the cataclysmic civil war that would of taken place.

RoI governments may have had some silly ideas at times, but the RoI state wants NI like it wants prison love.
 
#7
tomahawk6 said:
In an insurgency sadly its the civilian population that gets the worst of it. Despite that though US road accidents claim more lives at 44,000 last year. Perspective is everything.
A very perceptive posting, if you don't mind me saying.
 
#8
tomahawk6 said:
In an insurgency sadly its the civilian population that gets the worst of it. Despite that though US road accidents claim more lives at 44,000 last year. Perspective is everything.
Population of USA : 300 million
Population of Iraq : 25 million

34,000 dead Iraqis would correspond to over 400000 dead americans in a year.

Also, if you are going to start playing the 'perspective' game, then Al Queda 'only' killed 3000 Americans on 9/11, which would suggest that a 'War on Dangerous Driving' would be of greater benefit to the American people than a 'War on Terror'.
 
#9
Seeing ireland was over 30 years as well, the figures dont equate, and to all those who died in northern ireland totally fcuking irrelevant.

You cant use analogys like that when their is no relevance
 
#10
The figures Do Equate Scarletto,

3,000 deaths over 30 years is 100 per year as i said,

Full list below

Year Police/
Army Para-
military Civilian TOTAL Each pixel across represents the death of one....
Police/Army Paramilitary Civilian total
1969 1 2 13 16
1970 3 5 18 26
1971 60 22 89 171
1972 149 78 249 476
1973 82 52 119 253
1974 72 30 192 294
1975 35 49 174 258
1976 62 26 207 295
1977 50 12 49 111
1978 34 7 39 80
1979 76 7 37 120
1980 38 8 34 80
1981 51 20 40 111
1982 59 15 36 110
1983 41 10 34 85
1984 33 14 22 69
1985 32 8 17 57
1986 25 9 27 61
1987 29 28 40 97
1988 46 20 38 104
1989 39 6 30 75
1990 34 11 36 81
1991 24 20 52 96
1992 11 20 58 89
1993 18 7 63 88
1994 7 9 48 64
1995 1 2 6 9
1996 2 10 6 18
1997 5 5 10 20
1998 2 6 46 54

1,121 528 1,829 3,478
 
#11
jonwilly said:
24 Inf Brd was sent in 69 to keep Southern Irish Army out.
john
Onest.
Not quite right, the Irish government asked the British to send in troops, or they would. It was probably a bluff, as the Irish government didn't think they could control the north.

In 1974 a similar bluff by the British (close the border to the IRA your side or we pull out) had the effect of removing PIRA Southern Command from the battle.

http://www.ria.ie/cgi-bin/ria/papers/100573.pdf
 
#12
There is a lot of speculation as to what was or was not said. Lynch authorised the Irish army to set up a RAP on the Derry/Donegal border and rumour control took over from there.
Gerry Fitt approached the then Prime minister Chichester Clark and asked for British Troops instead of the B Specials.
This is as I remember events but checkout this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0vwt_Itlg0&mode=related&search=
:headbang:
Sapukay said:
jonwilly said:
24 Inf Brd was sent in 69 to keep Southern Irish Army out.
john
Onest.
Not quite right, the Irish government asked the British to send in troops, or they would. It was probably a bluff, as the Irish government didn't think they could control the north.

In 1974 a similar bluff by the British (close the border to the IRA your side or we pull out) had the effect of removing PIRA Southern Command from the battle.

http://www.ria.ie/cgi-bin/ria/papers/100573.pdf
 
#13
A dead British Soldier is a tragedy where ever they die a Soldier that was killed in NI is not 300 times less dead than a Soldier killed in Iraqi,there fore its totally fcukin irrelevent
 
#14
RHODESIAN said:
A dead British Soldier is a tragedy where ever they die a Soldier that was killed in NI is not 300 times less dead than a Soldier killed in Iraqi,there fore its totally fcukin irrelevent
Very, very well said
 
#16
razorman said:
tomahawk6 said:
In an insurgency sadly its the civilian population that gets the worst of it. Despite that though US road accidents claim more lives at 44,000 last year. Perspective is everything.
Population of USA : 300 million
Population of Iraq : 25 million


34,000 dead Iraqis would correspond to over 400000 dead americans in a year.

Also, if you are going to start playing the 'perspective' game, then Al Queda 'only' killed 3000 Americans on 9/11, which would suggest that a 'War on Dangerous Driving' would be of greater benefit to the American people than a 'War on Terror'.
and just as pertinent... population of iraq 25 million. population of Northern Ireland - 1.6 million.
 
#17
And what does midnights Avatar say, Boy Racer??

Served in the 1st Battalion, The Royal Anglian Regiment actually, as a sniper, served 2 tours, so i know a bit about the subject thanks!

And the picture is me!
 
#19
paulyb102 said:
And what does midnights Avatar say, Boy Racer??

Served in the 1st Battalion, The Royal Anglian Regiment actually, as a sniper, served 2 tours, so i know a bit about the subject thanks!

And the picture is me!
If True (forgive me this IS the internet), well done and THANK YOU!

Faugh-a-Ballagh!
 
#20
Pauly your so wrong, your figures dont have any relevance, a death is a death, not some game were you can go oh this is worse than that, some tours of ireland had more casualties than a tour of iraq btw, warrenpoint you old enough to know that, or the 9 men killed on my last tour, 2 who arent on any army list?????

It doesnt sodding matter and for you to bring it up shows a complete lack of understanding, and what the fcuk ireland has to do with iraq is anyones guess, oh look world war one was more dangerous than iraq, the crimean more dangerous than aden, fcuking pointless post pauly
 

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