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You're definitely one who just doesn't or can't learn from recent history.
Either that or you're so stupid you're attempting to class civvies as blue/red forces.
You do know the difference between all the different classifications, don't you?
The unfortunates on that flight are classed as 'collateral damage'.
If you remember that exact term specifically came from the US's recent global misadventures.
Nobody else's.
Collateral damage: a brief history of U.S. war mistakes - CNN
In the wake of a hospital bombing in northern Afghanistan, we look at previous instances of 'collateral damage' that led to the loss of civilian life.
edition.cnn.com
Funnily enough Bush sr certainly give a monkeys when the septics dropped that Iranian plane all those years ago.
I wonder if these unfortunates were deemed red/ blue forces?
BTW are you aware of the recent goings on with the Skripal case?
I know you are NFI and have zero interest after actually closing that thread down as you had nothing to back up your anomaly-ridden official story.
That thread weirdly seems to have ground to a complete halt now.
There's nothing like a sore, under-informed loser and there are a lot on here.
The majority of you would find it hard to tie your own shoelaces.
That's where cheating and thread-banning comes in.
The Sturgess's have taken on Michael Mansfield QC as their brief.
The family’s barrister, Michael Mansfield QC, argued in submissions to the coroner that the hearing ought to be an “article-two inquest”, that which closely examined the role of the state.
Explaining the limits he was proposing to set, Coroner Ridley said: “It is my view that matters such as why Mr Skripal was living in Salisbury and what he was doing, insofar as any involvement with UK or other intelligence agencies, falls outside the scope.” (what a surprise?)
A preliminary inquest hearing is due to take place in February. No date for the full inquest has been set.
Dawn Sturgess death from novichok: duty to protect public 'not breached' says coroner
Inquest will examine case for unlawful killing but not fatality risk in months following Skripal poisoning
Oh and where are the Skripals?
LOL.
Yes, we were aware of David Ridleys ruling.118 said:.........
BTW are you aware of the recent goings on with the Skripal case?
I know you are NFI and have zero interest after actually closing that thread down as you had nothing to back up your anomaly-ridden official story.
That thread weirdly seems to have ground to a complete halt now.
There's nothing like a sore, under-informed loser and there are a lot on here.
The majority of you would find it hard to tie your own shoelaces.
That's where cheating and thread-banning comes in.
The Sturgess's have taken on Michael Mansfield QC as their brief.
The family’s barrister, Michael Mansfield QC, argued in submissions to the coroner that the hearing ought to be an “article-two inquest”, that which closely examined the role of the state.
Explaining the limits he was proposing to set, Coroner Ridley said: “It is my view that matters such as why Mr Skripal was living in Salisbury and what he was doing, insofar as any involvement with UK or other intelligence agencies, falls outside the scope.” (what a surprise?)
A preliminary inquest hearing is due to take place in February. No date for the full inquest has been set.
Dawn Sturgess death from novichok: duty to protect public 'not breached' says coroner
Inquest will examine case for unlawful killing but not fatality risk in months following Skripal poisoningwww.theguardian.com
Oh and where are the Skripals?
LOL.
You appear to have failed to notice that he finds that the presence of Sergei Skripal is not relevant to the inquest on Dawns death, but that the two suspects who travelled under the names Petrov & Boshirov, who are understood to be GRU agents acting on behalf of the Russian state in the attempted murder of Sergei Skripal are relevant.
That means that the coroner considers that the presence of Sergei Skripal, a former intelligence officer living in Salisbury was not the cause of Dawns death, and that the two alleged agents are relevant to the inquest.
Guardian said:
The Skripals are safely avoiding further attempts on their lives.
Where are the tourists/business men?
I'll drop this over to the relevant thread so that you aren't missing out.
Slime
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The trolling attempt a few posts back has reminded me what a cool President Ronald Reagan was.
He was obviously POTUS at the time of the shoot down referred to, and when asked if his words were an apology to Iran he simply said yes.
He was witty but also pretty smart imho. His negotiations to free the US hostages taken by Iran were a master stroke and firmly marked the change from Carter to Reagan.
The ‘threesome‘ of Reagan, Thatcher and Gordievski were also a force to be reckoned with, and dealt a huge blow against the iron curtain
Apologies for thread drift from the thread subject
He was obviously POTUS at the time of the shoot down referred to, and when asked if his words were an apology to Iran he simply said yes.
He was witty but also pretty smart imho. His negotiations to free the US hostages taken by Iran were a master stroke and firmly marked the change from Carter to Reagan.
The ‘threesome‘ of Reagan, Thatcher and Gordievski were also a force to be reckoned with, and dealt a huge blow against the iron curtain
Apologies for thread drift from the thread subject
As Rumsfeld aptly said-
We will never know the actual facts behind the most recent US/ etc attempt to start a war with Iran.
One minute you're their best friend and the next they're take you out with an illegal hit?
There's a lot more to this whole chapter than we'll ever know.
The legend is that Solemani helped introduce EFPs into Iraq.
I remember exactly when EFPs first appeared in Iraq and it was in 2004.
If the US are crediting the rise of armour-defeating devices and the deaths of 'hundreds of servicemen' to Solemani why has it taken a decade and a half to do anything about it?
Considering Solemani was operating directly with the septics/ etc and the US always knew his loc.
Why would an Iranian general who oversaw the campaign vs IS forces in Iraq and Syria get whacked by the US a few days after the counter-IS militia he ran had >20 killed also by the good old world police?
Here's the 'evil Iranian tactician', responsible for 'hundreds of US deaths'>2004 operating with the US in 2015.
Iran was responsible for at least 603 U.S. deaths in Iraq, defense officials have said, or about a sixth of all fatalities.
I would have hoped and thought retrospectively blaming Iran for the deaths of pax stemming from US/UK/Au's 2003 illegal invasion (based on a whole heap of lies) is a bit rich even for the flag wavers over the pond.
We will never know the actual facts behind the most recent US/ etc attempt to start a war with Iran.
One minute you're their best friend and the next they're take you out with an illegal hit?
There's a lot more to this whole chapter than we'll ever know.
The legend is that Solemani helped introduce EFPs into Iraq.
I remember exactly when EFPs first appeared in Iraq and it was in 2004.
If the US are crediting the rise of armour-defeating devices and the deaths of 'hundreds of servicemen' to Solemani why has it taken a decade and a half to do anything about it?
Considering Solemani was operating directly with the septics/ etc and the US always knew his loc.
Why would an Iranian general who oversaw the campaign vs IS forces in Iraq and Syria get whacked by the US a few days after the counter-IS militia he ran had >20 killed also by the good old world police?
Here's the 'evil Iranian tactician', responsible for 'hundreds of US deaths'>2004 operating with the US in 2015.
Iran was responsible for at least 603 U.S. deaths in Iraq, defense officials have said, or about a sixth of all fatalities.
I would have hoped and thought retrospectively blaming Iran for the deaths of pax stemming from US/UK/Au's 2003 illegal invasion (based on a whole heap of lies) is a bit rich even for the flag wavers over the pond.
From The Spectator.
"It’s been only six weeks since the death of the Iranian general Qassem Soleimani, but already there are a number of local hardmen vying to take his place. Most notable are his sidekicks, the Kray twins of the Shia world: Qais al-Khazali and his brother Laith."
The Shia Krays: the whole of Iraq is being held to ransom | The Spectator
"It’s been only six weeks since the death of the Iranian general Qassem Soleimani, but already there are a number of local hardmen vying to take his place. Most notable are his sidekicks, the Kray twins of the Shia world: Qais al-Khazali and his brother Laith."
The Shia Krays: the whole of Iraq is being held to ransom | The Spectator
Goldbricker
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Bush 41 wasn't president in 1988 he took office jan 20, 1989
Goldbricker
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Camp Cooke used to be rocket central back in 04-05. 39th Bde lived in bunkers for a time in 04 so many were coming in. Once 256 Bde came and actually patrolled aggressively the number of rocket attacks seriously fell
SkippedOnce
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It appears that the USA has failed to secure another defence equipment market.
'Iraq is looking to buy weaponry from Russia to strengthen its air defences, a member of Iraqi parliament’s security and defence council told Rudaw on Thursday.
'Iraq needs “modern radars, an advanced missile system and new technologies, and to train air defence personnels on these modern systems and weapons,” council member Saran al-Aajibi told Rudaw's Mushtaq Ramadan on Thursday.
“The foreign minister told us that the defence minister will soon visit to Russia to discuss further cooperation in that field,” Aajibi said, after Iraqi foreign minister Fuad Hussein led a delegation to Moscow last week.'
https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/031220203
'Iraq is looking to buy weaponry from Russia to strengthen its air defences, a member of Iraqi parliament’s security and defence council told Rudaw on Thursday.
'Iraq needs “modern radars, an advanced missile system and new technologies, and to train air defence personnels on these modern systems and weapons,” council member Saran al-Aajibi told Rudaw's Mushtaq Ramadan on Thursday.
“The foreign minister told us that the defence minister will soon visit to Russia to discuss further cooperation in that field,” Aajibi said, after Iraqi foreign minister Fuad Hussein led a delegation to Moscow last week.'
https://www.rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/031220203
instinct
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Well it all went tits this time last year.
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I hope they've got their evacuation drills down, just in case!
'Iraqi explosives experts were working to defuse a large mine discovered on an oil tanker in the Persian Gulf and evacuate its crew, authorities said Friday.
'The statement came a day after two private security firms said sailors feared they had found a limpet mine on the MT Pola, a Liberian-flagged tanker in the waters off the Iraqi port of Basra. A limpet mine is a type of naval mine that attaches to the side of a ship, usually by a diver-member of special forces. It later explodes, and can significantly damage a vessel.
'The Iraqi statement said the mine had been attached to a tanker rented from Iraq's Oil Marketing Company SOMO that was refuelling another vessel. Iraq's naval forces were making "a great effort to accomplish the mission" safely, said Iraq's Security Media Cell, which is affiliated with the country's security forces.'
www.9news.com.au
'Iraqi explosives experts were working to defuse a large mine discovered on an oil tanker in the Persian Gulf and evacuate its crew, authorities said Friday.
'The statement came a day after two private security firms said sailors feared they had found a limpet mine on the MT Pola, a Liberian-flagged tanker in the waters off the Iraqi port of Basra. A limpet mine is a type of naval mine that attaches to the side of a ship, usually by a diver-member of special forces. It later explodes, and can significantly damage a vessel.
'The Iraqi statement said the mine had been attached to a tanker rented from Iraq's Oil Marketing Company SOMO that was refuelling another vessel. Iraq's naval forces were making "a great effort to accomplish the mission" safely, said Iraq's Security Media Cell, which is affiliated with the country's security forces.'
Iraq explosives experts working to defuse mine on oil tanker
www.9news.com.au
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Hopefully things will not end as badly as they appear to be going in Afghanistan.
'US President Joe Biden and Iraqi Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kadhimi will formally sign an agreement on Monday ending ending the 18-year long American combat mission in Iraq by the end of 2021.
'Biden and Kadhimi will meet in the Oval Office for their first in-person meeting as part of a strategic dialogue between the US and Iraq, reported Reuters.
'At the close of the session, the end of the US combat mission in Iraq will be announced, according to a senior Biden official.'
'US President Joe Biden and Iraqi Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kadhimi will formally sign an agreement on Monday ending ending the 18-year long American combat mission in Iraq by the end of 2021.
'Biden and Kadhimi will meet in the Oval Office for their first in-person meeting as part of a strategic dialogue between the US and Iraq, reported Reuters.
'At the close of the session, the end of the US combat mission in Iraq will be announced, according to a senior Biden official.'
US to end Iraq combat mission by end of 2021
www.israelnationalnews.com
muzzleflash
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Nice, bold statement to pacify a wider audience, however, any thoughts that the US will completely disengage from Iraq is fantasy. They are going to be around for a very, very long time.Hopefully things will not end as badly as they appear to be going in Afghanistan.
'US President Joe Biden and Iraqi Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kadhimi will formally sign an agreement on Monday ending ending the 18-year long American combat mission in Iraq by the end of 2021.
'Biden and Kadhimi will meet in the Oval Office for their first in-person meeting as part of a strategic dialogue between the US and Iraq, reported Reuters.
'At the close of the session, the end of the US combat mission in Iraq will be announced, according to a senior Biden official.'
US to end Iraq combat mission by end of 2021
www.israelnationalnews.com
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