Iraq

Looks like things in Iraq are heading south (again). With the current US policy of disengagement in the region (apart from securing oilfields) and the UK's post-Bliar attitude to the place, will the West leave Russia and Iran to gain more influence in the region as power brokers and 'peacemakers'?

'At least three people have been reportedly shot dead at protests outside the Iranian consulate in Iraq this weekend, as the country is engulfed in widespread unrest over corruption, unemployment and public services. Despite the $US220 billion reconstruction effort following the US-led 2003 invasion, Iraq remains suffering from immense unemployment, failing public services and widespread corruption.

'Over the weekend protesters threw burning objects over the walls around the Iranian consulate in protest over perceived interference in internal affairs. It comes amid widespread unrest where tens of thousands have taken to the streets to call for regime change and the end of corrupt parties. And that’s before you take religious divides into account.

'During the weekend’s protests, Iraqi security forces opened fire with tear gas and live ammunition to disperse tens of thousands of demonstrators swarming through the streets of Baghdad. More than 250 people have been killed amid a security crackdown in the past month. Among them are anti-corruption activists and disaffected Shiite and Sunni factions. But there are also competing Iranian and Saudi agents seeking to influence the future of the once-powerful Middle Eastern nation.
International affairs analysts are fearful: Is Iraq on the path to becoming another Syria? Are regional competitors destroying the dysfunctional government in their play for power?

“Iraq shows all too many signs of returning to the kind of internal instability that led to low-level civil war in 2011 and the rise of (Islamic State),” says Centre for Strategic and International Studies analyst Anthony Cordesman, “and that undercuts any efforts to bring stability and defeat extremism”.


 
I think at this point, most people have lost the appetite for prolonged non-resolved wars apart from defense companies and gov't officials with vested interests in it. People are just sick and tired.
 

Tuffty

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What they need is a strong leader who takes no crap and if you step out of line you wont be seen again. Oh sorry i was getting Iraq and Russia mixed up. One had one and one has one
 
Possibly some positive news for a change.

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Iraqi parliament late Tuesday approved a new election law that paves the way for greater inclusion of independent political candidates, considered a key demand for protesters.

The law ends the practice of political parties running on unified lists, which allowed them to easily win all seats in a given province. The new law will now divide Iraq's 18 provinces into multiple districts and allocate one parliamentary seat per 100,000 people.

Hundreds of thousands of anti-government protesters have called for sweeping changes to Iraq's political system, which was put in place in the wake of the 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq. The protesters have blamed the system for widespread corruption and rampant unemployment.


Iraq: New election law paves way for more independent candidates | DW | 25.12.2019
 
Kicking off in Baghdad. Trump's response will be interesting; whether to pile in or pull out.

'Dozens of angry Iraqi Shi'ite militia supporters have broken into the US Embassy compound in Baghdad after smashing a main door and setting fire to a reception area, prompting tear gas and sounds of gunfire. An Associated Press reporter at the scene saw flames rising from inside the compound and at least three US soldiers on the roof of the main building inside embassy. It was not clear what caused the fire at the reception area near the parking lot of the compound.'

 
Kicking off in Baghdad. Trump's response will be interesting; whether to pile in or pull out.

'Dozens of angry Iraqi Shi'ite militia supporters have broken into the US Embassy compound in Baghdad after smashing a main door and setting fire to a reception area, prompting tear gas and sounds of gunfire. An Associated Press reporter at the scene saw flames rising from inside the compound and at least three US soldiers on the roof of the main building inside embassy. It was not clear what caused the fire at the reception area near the parking lot of the compound.'

Here is another view. Trump blames Iran and drops heavy hint to Iraq to sort their act out. Protesters are Friends of Jeremy (Hezbolah).
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Iraqi protesters storm US embassy compound in Baghdad | DW | 31.12.2019
 

184461

*Russian Troll*
Iranian-backed militia, apparently. lol
Funny they're Iranian-backed militia and not just pissed off Iraqi civvies.
There can't be too many of those after 17yrs of illegal occupation liberation, can there?

 
Recent protests have been against Iranian influence in Iraq. The US having left and theninvited back to defeat IS:
Iraqis have been taking to the streets in their thousands almost daily to condemn, among other things, militias such as Kataib Hezbollah and their Iranian patrons that support Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi’s government.
Some of it mentioned on the old principle Iraq thread:

Now, since the US strikes against Iranian militias in Iraq and Syria, after one of their contractors was killed, the Iranian militias are causing damage to the US Embassy, much like the damage to the Iranian Consulate earlier this year:
But on Tuesday, it was the militias who protested, spraying “Closed in the name of the people” on the gates of the U.S. Embassy and smashed the surveillance cameras around the building with bricks and stones.
The protestors include the leader of Qais al-Khazali Asaib Ahl al-Haq militia who has been speaking to Reuter’s:
Qais al-Khazali, leader of the Iranian-backed Asaib Ahl al-Haq militia, and many other senior leaders were among the protesters.

“Americans are unwanted in Iraq. They are a source of evil and we want them to leave,” Khazali told Reuters.

Khazali is one of the most feared and respected Shi’ite militia leaders in Iraq, and one of Iran’s most important allies.
The strikes were on Karin Hezbollah, funnily enough associated with Hezbollah in Lebanon. Their commander was also at the protest:
Kataib Hezbollah is one of the smallest but most potent of the Iranian-backed militias. Its flags were hung on the fence surrounding the embassy.

Militia commander Jamal Jaafar Ibrahimi, also known as Abu Mahdi al-Mohandes, and Badr Organisation leader Hadi al-Amiri were also at the protest.
 
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184461

*Russian Troll*
It appears to be the season for the 'Iran-backed militia'


What's the betting that tomorrow if this hits your news channels (hasn't hit mine at all) it will be linked directly to Iran.
Wouldn't that now be SOP and guaranteed?

But what's it really about?
It has nothing to do with Iran at all.

It's all to do with the US killing civvies after a US contractor was killed by IDF in Kirkuk and a blue-on-blue when they hosed down 32 Iraqi Army who were engaging the is/uk/us created ISIS.
Nothing to do with Iran but that's never stopped media doing their chicken-hawk tasking.


The Iraqis are threaders at being treated like crap in their own country that we've raped and pillaged.
Rightly so, they should be pissed off.
We completely destroyed quite a few countries over the last 20yrs.
Duff-int is the usual excuse for regime change.
 

184461

*Russian Troll*
@chimera which part of the above is disagreeable?
Is it the Iranian (who just want to be left alone) link popping up again and again?
When Iran's name pops up that's usually a combat indicator of less-than-honest goings-on.

Don't you think the average Iraqi would very much like to see the end of the US-led occupation of their country?
There's a trick-question for you.

It's funny the Qataris don't have 'Iranian-backed' in any of their reports.
That's just be the septics then.
Funny that.


Although Ryan has a bit of a flap on and is at 30k and rising.

What did I just say about the US press?

Terrorists? That just reeks of desperation.

 
It appears to be the season for the 'Iran-backed militia'


What's the betting that tomorrow if this hits your news channels (hasn't hit mine at all) it will be linked directly to Iran.
Wouldn't that now be SOP and guaranteed?

But what's it really about?
It has nothing to do with Iran at all.

It's all to do with the US killing civvies after a US contractor was killed by IDF in Kirkuk and a blue-on-blue when they hosed down 32 Iraqi Army who were engaging the is/uk/us created ISIS.
Nothing to do with Iran but that's never stopped media doing their chicken-hawk tasking.


The Iraqis are threaders at being treated like crap in their own country that we've raped and pillaged.
Rightly so, they should be pissed off.
We completely destroyed quite a few countries over the last 20yrs.
Duff-int is the usual excuse for regime change.




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Oh dear:
Public anger grows after US attacks on Iran-backed militia in Iraq and Syria that killed 25 fighters


According to AJ, Iraqis wants both the US:
"In terms of the United States, here is a country that has spent trillions of dollars in Iraq 16 years after its invasion and occupation to wins the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people, and ends up having its embassy surrounded the way it is," he said.

The "surreal" events on the ground have forced the US to go "on the defensive", Bishara added, where it "doesn't have much of an alliance either on the street or government institutions within Iraq"
and Iran, out of their country, albeit they undoubtedly want help to stop IS taking over large tracts of the country in the future:
"Countless people have demonstrated against Iranian presence and influence in the country, burning Iranian consulates," Bishara said.

"But there are others who are with the PMF and Kataib Hezbollah that remain loyal to Iran and are more than happy to deflect pressure on Iran by attacking the US embassy.
 

184461

*Russian Troll*
Like most things in Iraq, smoke and mirrors, nothing to see here etc, ect
Not even a flicker of anything Iraq-related on 5 news channels.

By jingo, I think you're on to something.

Just wait to see if they can get away with turning 'pissed off Iraqi civvies' into 'Iranian-backed terrorists'.
If that happens they'll get some mileage out of it.

Quick, quick the Iranians are hitting us in the GZ we really need to go preemptive on them now..etc..etc

You know the score by now.
 
Info on the earlier burning of the Iranian Consulate just over a month ago. Seems neither Iran according to the people, or the US according to Iranian backed militias, is welcome. In the Consulate attack live ammo had to be used leading to the death of protesters. So far only stun grenades and CS have been used on the protestors at the US Embassy:
 
Iraq has being heading for another fall because the west left it in such a state that all players felt they had a chance to come out on top... Way past time the place was carved up into separate countries.
 
Iraq has being heading for another fall because the west left it in such a state that all players felt they had a chance to come out on top... Way past time the place was carved up into separate countries.
The Iraqi govt requested the withdrawal of US troops:
 

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