Iraq withdrawal "begins in March"

#1
We have a timeline! As long as all goes well UK to start withdrawal of troops from Iraq in March.

Hear it first here
 
#2
Perhaps being cynical here but as with anything involving the Gubmint I'll believe it when I see it. At least I've finally got my Telic 1 medal!
 
#4
Not so much a withdrawal - more a redeployment surely.

A few months ago there was no prospect of taking troops from Iraq and reinforcing Afghanistan. Now eyes are on another ball, party conferences are over and we have a new Defence Sec we are seeing the phrase - a withdrawal allowing us to better support the war against the Talibaan (not and exact quote, I know, but words to that effect from an MOD spokesman)
 
#5
Herrumph said:
Not so much a withdrawal - more a redeployment surely.

A few months ago there was no prospect of taking troops from Iraq and reinforcing Afghanistan. Now eyes are on another ball, party conferences are over and we have a new Defence Sec we are seeing the phrase - a withdrawal allowing us to better support the war against the Talibaan (not and exact quote, I know, but words to that effect from an MOD spokesman)
Too true - as ordered by Barack Obama.
 
#8
It would have been quite wrong of him to make such comments whilst serving - he would have face disciplinary measures had his comments not been authorised. Does anyone believe MoD Media Ops would have allowed such comments to be made.

He did what he thought was honourable, resigned and has made public a number of similar statements. Whether his views are right or wrong, he has done the right thing and deserves credit for his approach.

Personally I believe he is right in most of his analysis. Others may not be able to comment publicly or may disagree.
 
#9
Herrumph said:
It would have been quite wrong of him to make such comments whilst serving - he would have face disciplinary measures had his comments not been authorised. Does anyone believe MoD Media Ops would have allowed such comments to be made.

He did what he thought was honourable, resigned and has made public a number of similar statements. Whether his views are right or wrong, he has done the right thing and deserves credit for his approach.

Personally I believe he is right in most of his analysis. Others may not be able to comment publicly or may disagree.
There has been considerable comment in previous ARRSE about senior officers who failed to speak out about things that needed saying. Why the double standards? Does his pension over-ride policy and conduct which jeopardised men's lives?
 

chimera

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#10
Another significant announcement that is drip fed out to the Press though an unattributable briefing by some anonymous "senior official" rather than by a formal announcement from a Minister.

I wonder if our political leaders will ever have the moral courage to stand up and take responsibility.
 
#11
I remember hearing the same thing in 2004 and again in 2006.

I look forward to 2010 when this one is dusted off again.
 
#13
Big_Jim_Slade said:
I remember hearing the same thing in 2004 and again in 2006.
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I was in Kuwait earlier this year (march in fact) helping move stores for the withdrawal, unfortunly it didn't go to plan. Should be interesting to see if they can get it to work this time around.
 
#15
Lt Col Collins has sprung fully armed into the breach with comments written for publication now that would have been better said when he was a serving officer. See www.modoracle.com/news...tegory=all
Hard to see how he could have done this when what he is talking about took place after he left. I don't always like the man and I thought much of his book was very self serving, but I think we have to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one :D
 
#16
Your "begins in March" dependes very heavily on The Saviour of the World not bottling out on an election in June.

All manner of happy vote winners (troop withdrawal, toughening up on illegals, dolescum etc etc) all are tied into that.
 
#17
I wouldnt believe anything coming out of this mong government, they are spinning up their own arrseholes, pondering whether to go for an election early in 2009. Remember 2007 party conference season there were announcements from the one eyed C*nt himself who flew over to Iraq to make the announcements of withdrawala. 10 days later the election was off, and the withdrawals never occured.
I note that this was "announced" by the BBC, which is the Media arm of New Labour, and not in Parliament. A timeline like a March withdrawal would be good for their potential election timelines of spring/summer 2009.
 

chimera

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#18
bobthedog said:
Remember 2007 party conference season there were announcements from the one eyed C*nt himself who flew over to Iraq to make the announcements of withdrawala. 10 days later the election was off, and the withdrawals never occured.
That was also becuase in his enthusiasm for some political point scoring he forgot to ask the Foreign Office, MOD, or our US "friends" whether the troop reduction was in line with extant planning. It wasn't.

Also some of the troop reduction he announced had been announced perviously and were therefore not "new".
 

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