Iraq. Militants take back Mosul, Tikrit and march on Baghdad

One could expect that in this situation later or sooner Washington would demonstrate its military might but in fact it demonstrated its political weakness.
I see Putin hasn’t had that much luck either, still under sanctions from his last venture in the Ukraine.

His much trumpeted protection of the Iraq chemical weapon facility demonstrated a certain lack of ability.

His impressive demonstration of ineptitude with the flagship of the Russian Navy going to Syria has awed/amused everyone...by the way has it sunk or burned out yet?

He does however play Ice Hockey. Most impressive.
 
NATO have suspended training of the Iraqi army as a result of the recent American assassination air strikes in Iraq. It was felt this was necessary to ensure the safety of the NATO training personnel in Iraq. NATO Mission Iraq (NMI) is led by Canadian Maj-Gen. Jennie Carignan.
NATO suspends Canadian-led Iraq training mission after Soleimani killing
NATO has suspended Canadian-led training of Iraqi security and armed forces to ensure the safety of several hundred mission members after a U.S. airstrike in Baghdad killed a top Iranian general, an alliance spokesman said on Saturday.

"The safety of our personnel in Iraq is paramount," acting NATO spokesman Dylan White said in a statement. "We continue to take all precautions necessary. NATO's mission is continuing, but training activities are temporarily suspended."
There apparently is concern that the recent US actions could trigger a general war in the Middle East.
NATO was monitoring the situation in the region very closely, he added, amid mounting concern that the killing of Iran's second-most powerful man could trigger a conflagration in the Middle East.
It's not clear at this time when or if the NATO mission in Iraq may resumed nor is it clear what additional consequences may result.
 
The immediate consequences...had they not vaporised the recently departed gent, would have been a whole lot more of the non stop terrorism he has been directly responsible for.

It won’t stop, Iran has been doing it too long to try and change. It may however just give them a brief moment to pause for thought.

The top man was gloating that the US was powerless to do anything...and pooof his right hand man disappears in a big bang and cloud of dust. Hmmmm...perhaps they can!!!
The American actions have put a stop to the NATO training of the Iraqi army to take on and defeat IS. Remember them? The reason we have troops back in the Middle East once again?
 
Several blasts shook the Baghdad area hours after a huge funeral procession for a top Iranian general killed by a US air strike on Thursday.
A projectile hit the Green Zone near the US embassy while several more were fired north of the Iraqi capital at Balad air base, which houses US forces.
Nobody was hurt in the attacks, Iraqi security sources say.
It looks that it is only the initial phase of events that could end of complete withdrawal of US forces and embassy from Iraq.
 

It looks that it is only the initial phase of events that could end of complete withdrawal of US forces and embassy from Iraq.
At the moment it sounds a little stepped up from ‘business as usual’ with some members of the PMF doing what they do. I doubt there’s clear direction yet on what (if anything) reprisal(s) Iran intends.
 
President Trump has warned the US is "targeting" 52 Iranian sites and will strike "very fast and very hard" if Tehran attacks Americans or US assets.
It is not something special. One could expect such a threat in this or that form. But there is one important detail.
He said the US had identified 52 Iranian sites, some "at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture", and warned they would be "HIT VERY FAST AND HARD" if Tehran struck at the US.
Threat to hit intentionally cultural targets is something new. Pres.Trump probably doesn't understand that he exposes the US armed forces as new barbarians, Vandals.
 

It is not something special. One could expect such a threat in this or that form. But there is one important detail.

Threat to hit intentionally cultural targets is something new. Pres.Trump probably doesn't understand that he exposes the US armed forces as new barbarians, Vandals.
Says the lying Russian whose barbarian forces have been routinely demolishing cultural and medical facilities across Syria, and murdering people across Europe.
The hypocrisy is so thick you can taste it.
 
Says the lying Russian whose barbarian forces have been routinely demolishing cultural and medical facilities across Syria, and murdering people across Europe.
The hypocrisy is so thick you can taste it.
Please, comment the threat made by pres.Trump. Do you agree that it is right to hit intentionally objects that belong to cultural heritage?
I expect that you will not answer the question, will you?

As, for hospitals then the Americans bombed one in Afghanistan being well aware that it was hospital run by European personnel. Do you remember this case?
 
Please, comment the threat made by pres.Trump. Do you agree that it is right to hit intentionally objects that belong to cultural heritage?
I expect that you will not answer the question, will you?

As, for hospitals then the Americans bombed one in Afghanistan being well aware that it was hospital run by European personnel. Do you remember this case?
Grozny.

Twice.

Now go away.
 
So now only Israel unconditionally supported controversial step made by Washington to assassinate the Iranian general.
Even the KSA close ally and archenemy of Iran prefers to remain neutral.
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International law permits the destruction of cultural sites if it's proportional to the achieving of the military aim and even hands the decision on proportionality to the military concerned. It's hard to think of a time when such destruction was an express aim of a military campaign by a western power. It's generally regarded as beyond the pale and a typical step of those conducting ethnic cleansing or genocide.

Remember the fuss made when the Taliban blew up the statues of Buddha at Bamyan?
 
So now only Israel unconditionally supported controversial step made by Washington to assassinate the Iranian general.
Even the KSA close ally and archenemy of Iran prefers to remain neutral.
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Only in doublespeak, let me translate:

"Soleimani and by extension Iran got what was coming alhamdulillah. They need to calm down and the International community should tell them to STFU. "

HTH.
 
International law permits the destruction of cultural sites if it's proportional to the achieving of the military aim and even hands the decision on proportionality to the military concerned. It's hard to think of a time when such destruction was an express aim of a military campaign by a western power. It's generally regarded as beyond the pale and a typical step of those conducting ethnic cleansing or genocide.

Remember the fuss made when the Taliban blew up the statues of Buddha at Bamyan?
TBF, the wig is as coherent as some of the posters on here, 'important to Iran & the Iranian culture' could well mean the Iranian noooooclear program sites in his language.

Can't see the US mil targeting sites of religious/cultural/historic significance without very good reason. If anyone hides and operates their ballistic missiles or S-300s from such sites then they're fair game.
 
Please, comment the threat made by pres.Trump. Do you agree that it is right to hit intentionally objects that belong to cultural heritage?
I expect that you will not answer the question, will you?

As, for hospitals then the Americans bombed one in Afghanistan being well aware that it was hospital run by European personnel. Do you remember this case?
No, liar.
What is YOUR point?
That the Russians candidate for President has behaved exactly as predicted, as an impulsive, violent child?
You got what you wanted. The fact that they turned one of your partners in crime into flashburned dogmeat has upset you?
Is it that the Americans can be barbaric? Ask the Sioux.
Or is it that they are better Neo barbarians than Russians are at just being barbarians?
Afre all, you have never been anything else.
 
The Iraqi parliament have passed a resolution to end the presence of foreign troops in Iraq, and to ensure that they do not use Iraqi land, air, or waters for any reason.
Iraqi parliament passes resolution to end foreign troop presence
"The government commits to revoke its request for assistance from the international coalition fighting Islamic State (ISIS) due to the end of military operations in Iraq and the achievement of victory," the resolution read.

"The Iraqi government must work to end the presence of any foreign troops on Iraqi soil and prohibit them from using its land, airspace or water for any reason."
The government may decide to ignore parliament, but it was the PM who asked parliament to do this in the first place.
Abdul Mahdi, who is now caretaker prime minister after resigning in November under pressure from street protests, on Friday called for parliament to convene an extraordinary session to take legislative steps to protect Iraq's sovereignty.
Even Iraqi opponents of Soleimani are not happy with the US conducting assassination air strikes on Iraqi soil and don't want to get dragged into a US inspired war with Iran.
Many Iraqis, including opponents of Soleimani, have expressed anger at Washington for killing the two men on Iraqi soil and possibly dragging their country into another conflict.
The most likely person to succeed al-Muhandis, one of the Iraqis killed in the assassination air strikes, wants US troops to leave Iraq.
Hadi al-Amiri, the top candidate to succeed al-Muhandis, repeated his call for U.S. troops to leave Iraq on Saturday during an elaborate funeral procession for those killed in the attack.
If this is all going according to plan for the US, it's pretty hard to see at this point what sort of rational plan they might have in mind.
 
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The Iraqi parliament have passed a resolution to end the presence of foreign troops in Iraq, and to ensure that they do not use Iraqi land, air, or waters for any reason.
Iraqi parliament passes resolution to end foreign troop presence


The government may decide to ignore parliament, but it was the PM who asked parliament to do this in the first place.


Even Iraqi opponents of Soleimani are not happy with the US conducting assassination air strikes on Iraqi soil and don't want to get dragged into a US inspired war with Iran.


The most likely person to succeed al-Muhandis, one of the Iraqis killed in the assassination air strikes, wants for US troops to leave Iraq.


If this is all going according to plan for the US, it's pretty hard to see at this point what sort of rational plan they might have in mind.
Other than a Trump promise to have US troops out of Iraq during his first term, and as a distraction from impeachment.
 
Apparently SoS Pompeo corrected pres.Trump.
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pompeo-dismisses-iraqi-leaders-call-for-all-foreign-troops-to-leave/2020/01/05/401dce62-2fc4-11ea-9313-6cba89b1b9fb_story.html
Trump’s tweet drew swift condemnation, with critics arguing that striking cultural sites would be a war crime.
Indeed intentional destruction of cultural sites would be regarded as a war crime.
Pompeo insisted Sunday that the United States will “behave lawfully” and “inside the system.”
But now, in the case of serious conflict any damage to cultural sites would be regarded as intentional.
And what exactly the expressions "behave lawfully" and "inside the system" do mean?
It means that the Laws in the System were established by Washington and only Washington has right to determine were the laws violated or no.
“We have parliament meeting to talk about expelling U.S. forces,” Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) said on “Fox News Sunday.” “What was Soleimani’s main goal in Iraq? It was to get the Americans out, to undermine our influence. So, we seem to have accomplished what Soleimani was trying to do but couldn’t. So in death, he’s actually accomplished his goal. That turns back U.S. interests in the region.”
 
Other than a Trump promise to have US troops out of Iraq during his first term, and as a distraction from impeachment.
Only he's just sent more troops to Iraq, which would seem to take away from pulling them out. Unless of course his devious plan is to get the Iraqis to kick the Americans out, at which point Trump can say he's fulfilled his promise to leave.

As for distraction from impeachment, I don't pretend to know how this will all play out in the end, but I will agree that it's not possible to discount domestic US politics from being the driving force behind recent events.
 
This quote from US news in your post is probably the most significant over the long term.
“We have parliament meeting to talk about expelling U.S. forces,” Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) said on “Fox News Sunday.” “What was Soleimani’s main goal in Iraq? It was to get the Americans out, to undermine our influence. So, we seem to have accomplished what Soleimani was trying to do but couldn’t. So in death, he’s actually accomplished his goal. That turns back U.S. interests in the region.”
 

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