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IRAQ book

#1
Bought a new book yestreday with details of all the deaths of the men and women sadly killed over in lovely old Iraq. Really good read and do recoment it for anyone lucky enough been out there. Looking back it does make you realise how lucky to get through telic 9.
 
#3
yea bruv, its called 'IRAQ a tribute to Britains fallen heroes' by Mark Nicol. Really good book with details and photo of every person.
RIP LYNX, DONNY & COFFEY
 
#4
Just had a quick shufti on amazon and it looks pretty good. Is it full of mawkish rubbish or does it handle the subject in a sober and fitting way?

ps www.icasualties.org is a pretty good site if you're interested in the subject. I worked out from there that during my two tours in Iraq, nearly 900 coalition soldiers were killed (815 of them Yanks, of course). It's stuff like that that most of us have no idea about when we're there (especially when your world finishes at the camp gates at SLB, as mine did).
 
#5
nah mate is pretty much sound. Generral accounts of each individual and some background concerning the state of play. Some accounts longer obviously but gives you an idea of how things went very badly during 8, 9 and 10 and improved since. Any way enough me waffling. Go out and get it bruv lol
 
#6
Bruv? I take it your a Rifleman from some sh1tty part of London? I only ask because that's what last person to call me Bruv happened to be (in the guardroom in Gornji Vakuf in 1998) :D

Come to think of it, he's probably an SNCO or brown bread now :p
 
#7
roycropper said:
roycropper said:
nah mate is pretty much sound. Generral accounts of each individual and some background concerning the state of play. Some accounts longer obviously but gives you an idea of how things went very badly during 8, 9 and 10 and improved since. Any way enough me waffling. Go out and get it bruv lol
Are you Pte Mike Golden?
 
#8
#11
why not? they died whilst on operations in Iraq.
 
#12
11 died in blue on blue incidents, not something I would want people to dwell on - it's enough to know that it happened. Two committed suicide whilst others were described as tragic incidents, why highlight this.
 
#13
Thunderer said:
11 died in blue on blue incidents, not something I would want people to dwell on - it's enough to know that it happened. Two committed suicide whilst others were described as tragic incidents, why highlight this.
Why would you want to sweep it under the carpet?
 
#14
Thunderer said:
11 died in blue on blue incidents, not something I would want people to dwell on - it's enough to know that it happened. Two committed suicide whilst others were described as tragic incidents, why highlight this.
If the book is indeed a tribute to those that lost their lives in the service of their country in Iraq, then I don't think such sensitivities matter at all.

Many of the non-battle deaths have been the subject of considerable publicity already, so I don't see that there is an issue over highlighting or dwelling on anything.
 
#15
Dilfor said:
Thunderer said:
11 died in blue on blue incidents, not something I would want people to dwell on - it's enough to know that it happened. Two committed suicide whilst others were described as tragic incidents, why highlight this.
If the book is indeed a tribute to those that lost their lives in the service of their country in Iraq, then I don't think such sensitivities matter at all.

Many of the non-battle deaths have been the subject of considerable publicity already, so I don't see that there is an issue over highlighting or dwelling on anything.
why tribute the non combat fatalities?? well mate, end of day they died for this country and should get as much respect as those from actual enemy action. It's probably even more sader fot their families, the fact that it was down to negligence, or sumin else which could have been prevented.
 
#16
MotorMan said:
Bruv? I take it your a Rifleman from some sh1tty part of London? I only ask because that's what last person to call me Bruv happened to be (in the guardroom in Gornji Vakuf in 1998) :D

Come to think of it, he's probably an SNCO or brown bread now :p[/quote
was it that obvious being a rifleman and from gods country that is London!!
 
#17
Thunderer said:
64 of those casualties were for reasons other than hostile actions, I hope it doesn't cover those.
Where did you get the figure of 64 from? The MOD lists 136 killed as a result of hostile action. And more to the point, who are you to say that their deaths count for less?
 
#19
Thunderer said:
11 died in blue on blue incidents, not something I would want people to dwell on - it's enough to know that it happened. Two committed suicide whilst others were described as tragic incidents, why highlight this.
So you would rather they were forgotten, they died during service, id rather someone remembered them just as much as the ones who died in action.

Why dwell on it, not asking anyone to dwell on it,just remember them.
 
#20
Thunderer said:
64 of those casualties were for reasons other than hostile actions, I hope it doesn't cover those.
Take your lead from the Imperial (now Commonwealth) War Graves Commission. No matter the rank or circumstances, all of their charges are treated equally in death. The only exceptions are a handful of non-uniform grave markers raised by families and those who died as a result of wounds or disease contracted before hostilities commenced (headstones with square cuts taken out of the corners).

What is good enough for Kipling and Fabian Ware is good enough for me.
 

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