Iraq Atrocities: 'I killed innocent people for our gov't'

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http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/story/9316830p-10241546c.html

The sacbee is a reasonably respected publication from the capitol city of California about 500 miles north of me. This interview points to the tragic nature that is the fraud called the "War in Iraq" which has almost nothing to do with The War Against Terrorism. The US is approacing 1k dead and tens of thousands of wounded to date and is draging you Brits down with it. Though there are no pictures to gawk at, the story this man tells is far worse than a couple or ten tortured to death in US foreign gulags.

By Paul Rockwell -- Special to The Bee
Published 2:15 am PDT Sunday, May 16, 2004
"We forget what war is about, what it does to those who wage it and those who suffer from it. Those who hate war the most, I have often found, are veterans who know it."

- Chris Hedges, New York Times reporter and author of "War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning"

For nearly 12 years, Staff Sgt. Jimmy Massey was a hard-core, some say gung-ho, Marine. For three years he trained fellow Marines in one of the most grueling indoctrination rituals in military life - Marine boot camp.

The Iraq war changed Massey. The brutality, the sheer carnage of the U.S. invasion, touched his conscience and transformed him forever. He was honorably discharged with full severance last Dec. 31 and is now back in his hometown, Waynsville, N.C.(snip)
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ViroBono said:
Generalquarters said:
'I killed innocent people for our gov't'
Perhaps he was involved in 'friendly fire' incidents....

"Freindly Fire" - do you mean - "... I'm gonna kill me some non americans... Hooh-hah..." by any chance?
 
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That wouldn't surprise me... Then again, on a serious note, if he knew they WERE innocent then why do it... ???
 
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That wouldn't surprise me... Then again, on a serious note, if he knew they WERE innocent then why do it... ???
 
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to stop people from repeating themselves!!
 
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Filbert Fox said:
to stop people from repeating themselves!!
Sorry guys - having a mong moment. And crap pc!
 
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This comes as no great suprise after watching a years worth of TV pictures full of examples of US soldiers blazing away with MGs and Rifles on automatic in what is supposed to be a PSO in an Urban environment full of 'innocent civilians'. :x

We need to take steps to either educate these macho idiots on ROE and the use of minimum force, or make public steps to dissosociate the UK forces from them. :(

If not we will get tarred with the same brush.
 
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If the US are really becoming indiscriminate in their actions, then that would explain the increase in violence and the security problems.

If a USMC SSGT is willing to leave "his beloved Corps" and criticise the US then there may be a few ready to follow suit. Still this may just be another trying to sell a croc-o-shiit story to earn a few bucks more :?:

Seems to be happening a bit lately............ :?
 
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dui-lai said:
If the US are really becoming indiscriminate in their actions, then that would explain the increase in violence and the security problems.
They've been like that for a while now and unfortunatley don't seem to learn ANY lessons at all.

When I was in the Balkans last year, I came across a recent story of an incident where 4 children, aged 7-8yrs old were playing with Fire crackers in the vacinity of a US parol (the patrol was in x3 APCs). Upon hearing the crackers, the spams promply called in air support from the neighbouring Bond Steel US camp!!!

It transpired that they had even stopped to investigate. You can imagine the resulting shit and surprise surprise our lot had to go and clear up the shit - on the ground and the diplomatic stuff in the background...

God help us with them as our allies!
 
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drocto said:
That wouldn't surprise me... Then again, on a serious note, if he knew they WERE innocent then why do it... ???
Probably following "orders" in a climate (US military culture) that is tantamount to a Death Cult.
 
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drocto said:
That wouldn't surprise me... Then again, on a serious note, if he knew they WERE innocent then why do it... ???
Maybe just following "orders" in a US military culture that is tantamount to a Death Cult.
 
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Hereward said:
The problem isn't Americans - it's their "education" system: http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/
You got it. :wink: After dealing with "public" schools in America for a while my better 3/4s and I removed our three children about eight years ago and have never looked back.
For all you hecklers out there maybe my problem is that I am a victim of the America's public school system. You could say in effect that I, like many others, have been heavily institutionalized - and as Gatto alleges, schooled but not educated.
http://www.spinninglobe.net/againstschool.htm
AGAINST SCHOOL -
How public education cripples
our kids, and why
By John Taylor Gatto
"Do we really need school? I don't mean education, just forced schooling: six classes a day, five days a week, nine months a year, for twelve years. Is this deadly routine really necessary? And if so, for what? Don't hide behind reading, writing, and arithmetic as a rationale, because 2 million happy homeschoolers have surely put that banal justification to rest. Even if they hadn't, a considerable number of well-known Americans never went through the twelve-year wringer our kids currently go through, and they turned out all right. George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln? Someone taught them, to be sure, but they were not products of a school system, and not one of them was ever "graduated" from a secondary school. Throughout most of American history, kids generally didn't go to high school, yet the unschooled rose to be admirals, like Farragut; inventors, like Edison; captains of industry like Carnegie and Rockefeller; writers, like Melville and Twain and Conrad; and even scholars, like Margaret Mead. In fact, until pretty recently people who reached the age of thirteen weren't looked upon as children at all. Ariel Durant, who co-wrote an enormous, and very good, multivolume history of the world with her husband, Will, was happily married at fifteen, and who could reasonably claim that Ariel Durant was an uneducated person? Unschooled, perhaps, but not uneducated."
 
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I've just registered with Mil.com - gonna find me some momma's boys and bait them... he he :twisted:

Any suggestions? :roll:
 
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drocto said:
I've just registered with Mil.com - gonna find me some momma's boys and bait them... he he :twisted:
Any suggestions? :roll:
Post this image

and ask to speak to "GoldenWings" :evil:
 
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I can't see any image - it's just coming through as a tiny box with a red 'X' in it - have I broken my pc?
 

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