Iranian President in the US

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  1. I don't know what this guy is thinking but he's speaking at one of the Major Universities in New York. I hope he expects to get no better treatment than Bush would if he does a Q&A.

    I think they should have let him visit ground zero, sans escort.


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20942057/
     
  2. Thats a bit to nice ghost that guy just needs to go away.
     
  3. Far from it. If there was any sense governing world affairs one would go up shake his hand and sit down and begin to talk.
    And if it was left to the British that's what we would be doing.
    But because of the idiot errors of Blair we are now stuck with having to cravenly follow whatever line the yanks wish to follow.
     
  4. The fact that the US allows a foriegn had of state, even one with such a vastly differing world view, speak openly at a university is what makes you better then them. It shows the US system to be open and honest, rather than corrupt and closed.

    let him speak, he might even get asked some difficult questions. It'll be interesting no matter what.
     
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    I think shaking his hand would indeed make him look bad in the eyes of the middle east, however, seeing as how this guy wants to kill Americans it wouldn't be well received here.

    Talking to Iran on a level playing field legitimizes it as a global player and regional influence. I highly doubt that's a route we want to follow regardless of intentions. We have other allies that would not like that done.

    He wants to talk at Columbia, so be it. I hope he can handle the type of miasma that's coming his way.


    I can see we're looking at this two different ways. The US doesn't do empire well or at all really. They don't want to colonize Iran, just take it out of the equation.
     
  6. Whether a state is 'legitimised' by the international community or not has no bearing on whether it has regional or for that matter global influence. We are seeing examples daily of where Iran's influence (and de facto power) is causing problems for the Coalition in Iraq.
     
  7. Iran is Iraq's neighbor which is more than we are. Irans influence in Iraq has increased due to our illegal invasion and occupation.
    Were we to leave things there would right itself and Iranian influence would reduce again.
    And this is completly understood by the higher ups. They just want to pretend otherwise.
     
  8. Why do you think it would reduce?
     
  9. To everyone who thinks like that- grow up and look facts in the face. There is no getting away from the fact that Iran is global player AND a major regional influence- if it wasn't then the US wouldn't be having such a hissy fit over what it does and why they don't like you.

    I know looking facts in the face is a radical new approach that the US administration has yet to try with pretty much anything to do with foreign policy, but you're getting absolutely nowhere and doing nothing but making yourselves look sillier with this bullsh1t posturing. Or do you really think it's quicker, cheaper and easier (both politically and materially) to go to war with someone else again rather than talk to them? It's a sad state of affairs if you do.
     
  10. Makes you wonder whether he appreciates the irony of the situation, or whether in fact he holds the USA in contempt for it...
     
  11. Perhaps he will ask for political asylum and defect? :eek:

    What are the odds on that??
     
  12. They really ought to move the UN to Switzerland.
     
  13. GK

    "Iran is Iraq's neighbor which is more than we are. Irans influence in Iraq has increased due to our illegal invasion and occupation.
    Were we to leave things there would right itself and Iranian influence would reduce again.
    And this is completly understood by the higher ups. They just want to pretend otherwise.[/quote]"

    Had to laugh when I read that comment. So, you think the Iranians will pull out of Southern Iraq just as soon as US troops go home?

    HHMMMMMMM. One brick short of a load, I reckon.
     
  14. Oh no. Dinnerjacket isn't as stupid as to hold the USA in contempt. He is after all a Persian and as such is a citizen of a very old country indeed.
    But the USA government holds him and his nation in contempt which is a huge mistake that one can only sadly expect from some uppity youngster of a nation that's grown too big for its boots and who is due to be taken down a peg or two in the not to distant future.

    Adolescents seem to have no respect these days do they?
     
  15. "

    Had to laugh when I read that comment. So, you think the Iranians will pull out of Southern Iraq just as soon as US troops go home?

    HHMMMMMMM. One brick short of a load, I reckon.[/quote]

    Oh really? And how would they stay if not wanted then? Explain.