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Iran Tests "Fast" Torpedo

The BBC World Service TV, has just shown an Iranian 'film' of a 'claimed 100 meters'/sec torpedo. The torp is shown being fired, a 'Fast' track through the water and an explosion.
Can this be the famous "Supersonic" torpedo much luvved by certain board members.
'It' was fast but certainly not 100m/s.
brighton hippy said:
got to get within 7 or 8 k of a battlegroup.
don't see there hi tech submarines pulling that stunt off
Oh I dont know, they've got Kilos havent they? People tend to look down their noses at diesel-electric boats these days, but in the right hands, they are very sneaky.
Practically every time the US Navy goes up against diesel-electric boats from Latin American navies during exercises, the Yanks end up having their arrses handed to them in terms of carriers sunk etc! The thought of one of these weapons on a Kilo must be making the Pentagon shite itself.
CarpeDiem, that is bollix. On the rare occassions when an SSK gets within striking range of a CVN, this is big news and is talked about for ages. Most recently, an Aussia Collins class supposedly 'sunk' a CVN, but this was when the CVN had to transit narrow straights and the SSK was lying in wait. What aren't talked about are the numerous occassions when SSK's get 'sunk' by the CVN's escorts or, more commonly, never get anywhere near the CVN in the first place. Basically, SSK's lack the speed to be a real threat to CSGs operating in the open seas, although admittedly they're very dangerous in littoral waters (which the CVN would generally keep well away from).

As for the 'Shkval', it's a short-range weapon, generally used as a last-ditch defensive weapons when the sub is attacked. It's very noisy and difficult to guide accurately.
Surely the Iranian navy only have to "lie in wait" at the horn of aden for anything that might want to enter the gulf?

It neednt even be torpedos couldnt submarine deployed mines could be just as effective in holding up a supply chain? Or forcing surface vessels into a narrow enough channel to make even unguided missiles into a turkey shoot?
Andy, Have got the info at home. Will read tonight and repost tomorrow.

As for the Shkval being short range, it doesn't really matter. The Iranians aren't interested in taking on the USN in a blue-water slug-fest. All they have to do is sink a tanker or such in the Straits of Hormuz and totally bu@@er the oil supply to the western world, a course of action that the Iranians have repeatedly threatened. A short range torpedo that is difficult to guide would still be absolutely devastating in such a narrow stretch of water. On top of that, if Tehran was acting openly, they have a very large supply of mines of various types and ages that could be laid without a problem as well as quite a few AShMs (Silkworms etc), both air and land-launched, with some relatively modern aircraft and prepared launch sites. Yes, the USN wouldn't have much of a problem taking them apart but the Iranians could do some incredible damage very easily, either to military or civilian targets.


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AndyPipkin said:
CarpeDiem, that is bollix. On the rare occassions when an SSK gets within striking range of a CVN, this is big news and is talked about for ages. Most recently, an Aussia Collins class supposedly 'sunk' a CVN, but this was when the CVN had to transit narrow straights and the SSK was lying in wait.
...what...er....bit like the Straits of Hormuz and Kilo operating out of Chah Bahar aginst the USS Abraham Lincoln then...sorta fing ? ( apart from the fact that she's Pacific Fleet...)

I am constantly amazed at the arrant B0ll0cks that gets bandied about concerning the <<Shkval>>...This is NOT a new super-weapon....it was being discussed on Usenet in 1997.

(the sort of scare story is.... they have hypersonic torpedoes which threaten our 90,000 tonne CVNs........we must attack them to defend ourselves.......)

Lee Shaver
But the problem is that Iran can close the Straits without using their Kilos. They have been running increasing number of tests using mini subs to lay mines over the past few years, been busy buying in increasingly good Chinese ASh technology etc. Basically they could conceivably shut the Straits without ever exposing the SSKs
Anyone know much about Irans military strength overall, number of army units, air squadrons, fleet size? quality of equipment and training etc?
I don't claim to be a top-bod on the subject of Iran but i imagine they may put up more of an initial resistance than Iraq did.
Ya it wouldnt be Russian ship's the Iranian's would be aiming at so why not sell them. As for closing the Straight of Hormuz that would not help Iran get its oil to market.
Wouldn't really be an issue as they are in the process of building one of the world's largest oil terminals on their Indian Ocean coast, so shutting the Straits whilst an issue at the moment, won't be one for long and they're building it with Chinese money and expertise with the aim of shipping huge volumes of oil to the Orient so, in terms of critical infrastructure, it is relatively safe. The US would have to think extremely carefully about damaging or destroying the site.

Basically, in the not too distant future, the Iranians will have the ability to shut the Straits and not have to worry about financial consequences to themselves. Very powerful position in geo-political terms.
They tried it before and tankers were escorted in and out of the Gulf. In addition any repeat might cause a blockade of Iran's port's which would be simple enough.
This toy will be used against those big lumbering oil tankers.

Who wins any clash with US Naval forces is irrelevant as the resulting conflagaration will have the required effect on the oil markets and global economy.
The news report showed a Torpedo that seemed to be Rocket powered, being fired from a very small boat.
It left a strong 'wake' and did seem somewhat erratic in its journey.

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