Ira Not Defeated

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#5
It's pretty difficult for any Government to defeat 'organised crime' at the scale to which the IRA took it.
 
#6
It describes the IRA as "a professional, dedicated, highly skilled and resilient force", while loyalist paramilitaries and other republican groups are described as "little more than a collection of gangsters".

doesnt sound like organised crime to me
 
#7
If an enemy unilaterally lays down its arms and stops visiting violence on the other side - what is it called?

A victory perhaps?

Can You name me the aims that PIRA realised, the objectives it achieved.

If a military or terrorist organisation gives up its struggle without carrying out that which it was set up to do - what is it called?
 
#8
professional - Hmm not certain, but as terror groups go i suppose so.

dedicated - yes.

highly skilled - Well as with 1, for terrorists yes toward the end, but it isnt a high bar.

resilient - only after Thatcher was removed and executive action was taken off the table, up until then they were getting the shoe-ing of their lives and were on the ropes.
 
#9
Sven said:
If an enemy unilaterally lays down its arms and stops visiting violence on the other side - what is it called?

A victory perhaps?

Can You name me the aims that PIRA realised, the objectives it achieved.

If a military or terrorist organisation gives up its struggle without carrying out that which it was set up to do - what is it called?
But the same applies to both sides. The article is accurate - we didn't beat them; neither could it be said that they won.
 
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Uladh said:
It describes the IRA as "a professional, dedicated, highly skilled and resilient force", while loyalist paramilitaries and other republican groups are described as "little more than a collection of gangsters".

doesnt sound like organised crime to me
Then that only goes to show that you have very little subject matter knowledge and should shut the f*ck up.
 
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in_the_cheapseats said:
Sven said:
If an enemy unilaterally lays down its arms and stops visiting violence on the other side - what is it called?

A victory perhaps?

Can You name me the aims that PIRA realised, the objectives it achieved.

If a military or terrorist organisation gives up its struggle without carrying out that which it was set up to do - what is it called?
But the same applies to both sides. The article is accurate - we didn't beat them; neither could it be said that they won.
What was the British Armys stated objectives in the Troubles, and which ones were not acheived?
 
#13
Neither side was ever going to achieve victory in a traditional military sense but in 1993 it wasn't the British approaching PIRA/PSF to say "the war is over but we need your advice on how to end it".

I also don't remember any foriegn gentlemen watching my weapon being destroyed or my commanders having to announce "a complete cessation of all military activities".
 
#15
The IRA have been credited for many years now as having the best intel gathering network ever seen

there wasnt a lot going on that they didnt know about
 
#17
Bedpan2zero said:
The IRA have been credited for many years now as having the best intel gathering network ever seen

there wasnt a lot going on that they didnt know about
Except the tauts their ranks were apparently riddled with
 
#18
Sven said:
in_the_cheapseats said:
Sven said:
If an enemy unilaterally lays down its arms and stops visiting violence on the other side - what is it called?

A victory perhaps?

Can You name me the aims that PIRA realised, the objectives it achieved.

If a military or terrorist organisation gives up its struggle without carrying out that which it was set up to do - what is it called?
But the same applies to both sides. The article is accurate - we didn't beat them; neither could it be said that they won.
What was the British Armys stated objectives in the Troubles, and which ones were not acheived?
Sven,

Ah, come on mate, that question is a little idiotic in the context of a 30+yr campaign.

Just for you- There were numerous at different command levels over the period but you could boil them down to a singular overarching aim which was the

Restoration of normality to the population of NI

Just don't ask me to define "normality" :D
 
#19
The sim-month study, covering the period 1968-2005, was prepared under the direction of the then chief of general staff, General Sir Mike Jackson.


if chief of general staff, General Sir Mike Jackson prepared this document why are some people on here such as LEGZ30 trying to say that the ira was defeated because they where the ones who gave up the weapons , surly Sir Mike Jackson knows betetr than you
 
#20
and no Sven i have not served i am a 19 year old kid from ni who is considering joining, and my username i choose only as uladh in irish is ulster where i am from it has no connection to a free ulster or any other paramilitry group formed in the 1950s. i find it sad tho that you assumed someone who decides to have a name in irish can be a terroist
 

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