Internal passports,here we come!.

#2
From that bastion of level headed reporting?
 
#4
so basically, they are making ID cards compulsory against a manifesto pledge. The only means to using the ferries, without requireing to have the ID card, is the drivers licence. so anyone under 17 or other non drivers will be required to have the ID card.

If it is not as a means of forcing people to have ID cards, whyy waste all this money on all these intusions into privacy.
 
#6
Not even news! Last year I was asked for identity when checking-in for a flight from Inverness (Dalcross) to London (Gatwick). Having flown by the same airline from Gatwick to Inverness a week earlier, I was somewhat non-plussed.

The lady behind the desk said: 'I would always like to know who I was flying with', but she was unable to explain HOW she would know who she was flying with.

Eventually, my 'London Freedom Pass' was accepted - with reluctance and '...only this once....'.

Ten minutes later, I was 'randomly' selected for a '....100% baggage check...'.

Identifying my Army holdall the 'security man' said: "Are you xxxx who was in xxxx (NI) and xxxx (Singapore) with xxxx (Great Scottish battalion), I said "yes", my unusual surname does give the game away from time to time.

Ten minutes later, having righted the world's wrongs, we parted - my bag - unopened, and the good man's condemnation of the 'handling agents' ringing in my ears.

I have done the journey six times since: by train! A seventh journey coming up in a week or so - by train.

'SleazyJet' - change your handling agents.
 
#7
there are (IIRC) 150,000 people living on the IOW and many 1000's visit each year. all these people will require photo ID. all teens and non drivers will require to submit to the ID card in breach of a labour party manifesto pledge. This governments contempt for the people is again highlighted as this is another manifesto pledge they have deliberately broken. It's not like it is an unfortunate requirement, it is simply a means of getting more control of the people. and flying is not the same as getting a ferry. and how long before they extend it to trains ... busses .... cars ....
 
#8
SkiCarver said:
and how long before they extend it to trains ... busses .... cars ....
You mean like Young Persons Railcards, pensioners bus passes and driving licenses?

msr
 
#10
msr said:
SkiCarver said:
and how long before they extend it to trains ... busses .... cars ....
You mean like Young Persons Railcards, pensioners bus passes and driving licenses?

msr
c'mon, your better than that.

at the moment I can go into a railway station, pay cash for a ticket and go anywhere in mainland britain. How far is this from a guy in a grey suit saying, "ihr papieren bitte!"

this country gets more like nazi germany by the day.

edited to add;

WE SALUTE! WE SALUTE! WE SALUTE! Gordon Brown!
 
#11
SkiCarver said:
and how long before they extend it to trains ... busses .... cars ....
........ They will do it, and extend it, for as long as we let them.
They are relying on our complacency, and getting it.


[Edited to add:... And it's not so much like nazi Germany, more the communist ideal. These commies never did lose the cold war, they just laid low and took positions in local and national government. From local councils on up.
All hail the new Britain.... And let me see your papers please!
 
#12
In the USSR internal passports were a must in everyone's pocket: to register into the library, to reserve theatre tickets, to verify one's name on a train ticket...

The difference between there and then, and here and now is that now in UK the authorities have extensive electronic database -- a great means of centralised control of whereabouts and actions of every member of the society.
 
#13
Join No 2 ID. Smash this scheme before it is implemented. 10,000 people saying "no" will break it. Show a driving licence, even a provisional one.
 
#14
MrPVRd said:
Join No 2 ID. Smash this scheme before it is implemented. 10,000 people saying "no" will break it. Show a driving licence, even a provisional one.
I seem to recall 1.5 MILLION signed a petition to say no to road pricing and the government still want to bring it in. 10,000 would not even cause them to raise their snouts out of the trough.
 
#15
Domovoy[b] said:
In the USSR internal passports were a must in everyone's pocket: to register into the library, to reserve theatre tickets, to verify one's name on a train ticket..[/b].

The difference between there and then, and here and now is that now in UK the authorities have extensive electronic database -- a great means of centralised control of whereabouts and actions of every member of the society.
Exactly my thoughts on reading the header.

Was it not also a requirement to register with the Militsiya on arrival at destinations outside of your own Soviet Republic? Gordon you are listening aren't you?

All we need now is to introduce "das Hausbuch" and we will have terrorism and crime sorted.
 
#16
Nothing wrong with carrying an ID card or photo ID, and being made to register where you live, it is common sense in this day and age, it will make tenants think twice about moonlight flits, ID theft and so on,all this bullshit about big brother anyone would think these things are brought into being to inconvenience the the population, Lots of negativity about the way germans do things but at least they are organised, no one can skip out on a debt or a rental property, no chance of you getting a speeding ticket on the M1 when you are on the otherside of the world, or a judge issuing a warrant for your arrest for a crime that was commited in UK while youwere getting a pacemaker fitted in Australia, an organised ID system would stop things like this, but there again it would cut out a lot of the dole and benefit cheating too!! which lets face it sadly thats why we have 60yearold students because its better pay to skive than to work!!Please excuse the rant 8) this is a subject I feel should be addressed in UK , it would cut down your illegal immigrantsand the amount of dole bludgers living the life, in thailand and portugal, slowly spain is wising up!Bring On THe ID Cards for everyone over the age of 14 :lol:
 
#17
Nignoy said:
Nothing wrong with carrying an ID card or photo ID, and being made to register where you live, it is common sense in this day and age, it will make tenants think twice about moonlight flits, ID theft and so on,all this bullshit about big brother anyone would think these things are brought into being to inconvenience the the population, Lots of negativity about the way germans do things but at least they are organised, no one can skip out on a debt or a rental property, no chance of you getting a speeding ticket on the M1 when you are on the otherside of the world, or a judge issuing a warrant for your arrest for a crime that was commited in UK while youwere getting a pacemaker fitted in Australia, an organised ID system would stop things like this, but there again it would cut out a lot of the dole and benefit cheating too!! which lets face it sadly thats why we have 60yearold students because its better pay to skive than to work!!Please excuse the rant 8) this is a subject I feel should be addressed in UK , it would cut down your illegal immigrantsand the amount of dole bludgers living the life, in thailand and portugal, slowly spain is wising up!Bring On THe ID Cards for everyone over the age of 14 :lol:
Knob
 
#18
Le_addeur_noir said:
More freedom taken away by a faceless bureaucrat acting under the orders of this unelected government.
What freedom have you actually lost?
 
#20
parapauk said:
I'm astounded that anyone with any common sense thinks it's a good idea to let people on planes without IDing them.
I'm not referring to planes and my comments still apply. I agree, where there is serious risk, then precautions can be justified. unfortunately, the government are giving people no choice but to get the intrusive ID card, which is a breach of a manifesto pledge. You may be OK with governments lying to the people and putting themselves in a position of power over these individuals, but I am not.
 

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