• This is a stand-to for an incoming competition, one of our most expensive yet.
    Later this week we're going to be offering the opportunity to Win £270 Rab Neutrino Pro military down jacket
    Visit the thread at that link above and Watch it to be notified as soon as the competition goes live

Interim ISTAR Toolkit

#1
Bit of a seroius post this (though no doubt it will all fall to a bag of bollocks when the usual crowd get involved).

Can anyone shed some light on the Interim ISTAR Toolkit (IIT)? As far as I'm aware the G2 BISA for COMBAT is still a long term aspiration (true?) and will not see the light of day until mid 2015(ish?). Therefore where do we (the Corps) see IIT.

As I take it, IIT is the spawn of IQ (used in Telic - Analyst based), but it cannot run on COMBAT. Who is running with the training for it (Chicksands?) and has it been rolled out anywhere other than Telic and Herrick?
 
#2
I have just been listening to a brief on IIT - IIT is a bastardisation of iQ with alleged improvements - it is being run out for the next Bde to HERRICK (more trial on ops!!) - it is the same team that developed iQ with an additional noisey front end in the form of a previous CO 4 who is pushing it. The critical bit is it is Interim but then Porta Cabins are temporary.......... It cant run on Combat, it has no infrastructure and there are issues with most bits of it ............. now correct me if I'm wrong but these issues were solved in the early 80's on another operation .......
PM Me if you want more :) -

Its amazing what sprogs get involved in in grown up Germany rather than sheep filled wales :)
 
#3
like a lot of things in the armed forces, if it works it will be quite good.

please refer to BOWMAN, Typhoon, SF CH-47, SA 80 A1, i could go on.
 
#4
THE_EDITOR said:
Its amazing what sprogs get involved in in grown up Germany rather than sheep filled wales :)
you demonstrated you could not be trusted out on your own, after the notorious whale-shagging incident.
 
#5
CRmeansCeilingReached said:
THE_EDITOR said:
Its amazing what sprogs get involved in in grown up Germany rather than sheep filled wales :)
you demonstrated you could not be trusted out on your own, after the notorious whale-shagging incident.
CR...a pm on this incident would not go amiss...
 
#6
Howayman said:
Bit of a seroius post this (though no doubt it will all fall to a bag of bollocks when the usual crowd get involved).

Can anyone shed some light on the Interim ISTAR Toolkit (IIT)? As far as I'm aware the G2 BISA for COMBAT is still a long term aspiration (true?) and will not see the light of day until mid 2015(ish?). Therefore where do we (the Corps) see IIT.

As I take it, IIT is the spawn of IQ (used in Telic - Analyst based), but it cannot run on COMBAT. Who is running with the training for it (Chicksands?) and has it been rolled out anywhere other than Telic and Herrick?
Having just read Jim Storr's article in the BAR, I think it is safe to say that BOWMAN is also a long term aspiration. I also get the impression that many of the BISAs are also no longer funded; so don't expect much soon.

Strange to think that the MOD is happy to spend X millions on better protected vehicles, but unhappy to spend significantly less on G2 systems that may lead to less vehicles being contacted in the first place.
 
#9
CrapSpy said:
Howayman said:
Bit of a seroius post this (though no doubt it will all fall to a bag of bollocks when the usual crowd get involved).

Can anyone shed some light on the Interim ISTAR Toolkit (IIT)? As far as I'm aware the G2 BISA for COMBAT is still a long term aspiration (true?) and will not see the light of day until mid 2015(ish?). Therefore where do we (the Corps) see IIT.

As I take it, IIT is the spawn of IQ (used in Telic - Analyst based), but it cannot run on COMBAT. Who is running with the training for it (Chicksands?) and has it been rolled out anywhere other than Telic and Herrick?
Having just read Jim Storr's article in the BAR, I think it is safe to say that BOWMAN is also a long term aspiration. I also get the impression that many of the BISAs are also no longer funded; so don't expect much soon.

Strange to think that the MOD is happy to spend X millions on better protected vehicles, but unhappy to spend significantly less on G2 systems that may lead to less vehicles being contacted in the first place.
You are, of course, right in your assumption. BOWMAN is a long term project, and many of the BISA applications are suffering from funding issues. Four BISAs are due on line soon with BCIP5. FC BISA (Arty), Makefast (Engr), GBAD BriC (AD), and NBC BISA. Nothing firm after that I'm afraid.
 
#11
On a more serious note - we need something now - IIT or iQ may be the solution but me thinks we delve into solutions too quickly - I really dont undersatnd why there isnt anything "on the shelf" we cant use....
 
#12
There is...Its called I2 Analyst Notebook. The bigger issue is that nothing is running on COMBAT. This entails an airgap to another desktop/laptop and the crossdecking of info etc. Once again the Corps and the Army have cocked it up again...
 
#13
howayman, you said this software wont come into service until 2015 so i can see your concern.





it will clash with the liverpool vs barcelona game. :)
 
#17
H'man - I2 analysts notebook isnt a database it is merely a tool (like 1771 shows). It can use its own database iBase (which is like Microsoft Access ie there is no design to it when it comes out of the packet) or using i Bridge, it can access almost any other database - the trouble is there hasnt been a database for our business written or more importantly populated. As I'm sure you remember the database with iQ is immature and unreliable so there is an issue there. iQ has I2 Analyst Notebook type tools on it but if Analyst Notebook is a BMW 535 CSi in tools terms - iQ is a Ford Fiesta..............................
 
#18
THE_EDITOR said:
iQ has I2 Analyst Notebook type tools on it but if Analyst Notebook is a BMW 535 CSi in tools terms - iQ is a Ford Fiesta..............................
so Analyst Notebook is for posing inconsiderate wankers, and iQ is for people who want something cheap, reliable, with a 30 year proven track record and easy to maintain? :)
 
#19
CRmeansCeilingReached said:
THE_EDITOR said:
iQ has I2 Analyst Notebook type tools on it but if Analyst Notebook is a BMW 535 CSi in tools terms - iQ is a Ford Fiesta..............................
so Analyst Notebook is for posing inconsiderate wankers, and iQ is for people who want something cheap, reliable, with a 30 year proven track record and easy to maintain? :)
which is something that IQ doesn't have...but I get your point though.
 
#20
CRmeansCeilingReached said:
THE_EDITOR said:
iQ has I2 Analyst Notebook type tools on it but if Analyst Notebook is a BMW 535 CSi in tools terms - iQ is a Ford Fiesta..............................
so Analyst Notebook is for posing inconsiderate wankers, and iQ is for people who want something cheap, reliable, with a 30 year proven track record and easy to maintain? :)
CR apologies - it is new and shiney but behaves like a 35 year old Ford Fiesta driven by a pack of teenagers who prefer large exhausts to SAT NAVs :)
 

Similar threads

Top