Interesting court martial on the horizon, General in the dock.

The court previously heard Abbott would down Buckfast and vodka when she was looking after them.

Classy
On top of the prescribed tablets for her mental health, Made the boy watch porn films with her and tried to force him to pentrate her aged 6 on a number of occasions, Was shocked she only got 3yrs TBH
 
But it’s amazing come ACSC some of us “bottom thirders” ended up in the top third. Surprising what happens when you take drill out of and insert thinking in to the curriculum.

Stephen Hawkings should have joined The RLC, he could have been a late developer.
 

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At the point when ‘he’ done it but there wasn’t enough proof to convict beyond reasonable doubt. In law the same thing but in reality quite different.

If I remember correctly the reason we’re discussing this is that someone suggested the victim should be named and shamed and prosecuted because she lied about her accusation and evidence.

The fact that someone was not convicted doesn’t necessarily mean that the accuser / victim is lying. They could be mistaken or there could be a lack of corroborating evidence or something else that means the prosecution cannot establish guilt beyond reasonable doubt.
The point is he, according to the court, has not done any crime.

Now you can circle the wagons but the principle remains the same innocent until proven guilty. There is no point in saying that in reality it is guilty until proven innocent because that is not the system this country uses. I don't know how many times it will take to get through to the hang-em-and-flog-em brigade so I give up. You keep your contrary attitude and we will just remain glad you are not the arbiter of justice.
 
Stephen Hawkings should have joined The RLC, he could have been a late developer.
he would have failed basic training, crap at press ups.

And think, Mark Zuckerberg, based on age, would just about be eligible to be considered for promotion to Lt Col now...
 
Can someone explain the Scottish verdict of 'not proven ' please?

I know people say it means 'not guilty but don:t do it again' but in truth is the accused innocent or guilty at the end of the day?

Seems bizarre.

As I said upthread - It is an abomination.

The accused is left in limbo, where they are neither innocent or guilty ( but will remain guilty in the eyes of many, regardless of innocence or guilt )

There is zero closure for the victim.
 

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Can someone explain the Scottish verdict of 'not proven ' please?

I know people say it means 'not guilty but don:t do it again' but in truth is the accused innocent or guilty at the end of the day?

Seems bizarre.
It appears to be a (semi intentional?) quirk of history..

Originally the verdicts under old Scots Law were that the case put by the prosecution was either "proven" or "not proven". After the formation of the UK, there was something of a slow train crash between the legal systems. Statutes framed by the UK parliament were written in terms of "innocent" or "guilty"..

In true Scots fashion, the outcome of the collision was that the "proven" verdict dropped out of use, but the "not proven" verdict was retained..

From my perspective, what you are seeing here is a demonstration of the power of Edinburgh Lawyers, who always like to have a finger in every pie! ...although their most recent game playing has got them into a mess none of them seemed to have foreseen, and many are deeply regretting after the Salmond v Sturgeon "fish fight"!

...but I digress!
 
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he would have failed basic training, crap at press ups.

And think, Mark Zuckerberg, based on age, would just about be eligible to be considered for promotion to Lt Col now...

To my certain knowledge there are a number of Civil Servants who have 1*s and OF5s working for them who have not been recommended for promotion to Cpl or Major.
 
Does bring in to question the Zero Tolerance policy and promised discharge though, mind you Tiffy Courses are really expensive.
I'm guessing that he won't be getting his warrant.
 
Perverts week it would seem


SSgt Haseltine served in the army for nearly 15 years, boasts several medals of honour

I assume they mean the video games.

Staff Sergeant Samuel Haseltine, 32, was 'completely and utterly drunk' after necking a two-litre stein filled with beer and spirits

******* REME lightweights.

narrowly avoided a reduction in rank despite being jailed.

Although the article doesnt say, it doesnt look like hes been booted out.
 

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