Fair comment...but looking at the context of the debate, with comments WRT to toys etc I thought it a reasonable juddgement to make that the No was issued during proceedings.You assume she said No during the proceedings.
Some people shout Rape hours / days / years after the event - and for varying reasons.
Ah, ignored post.
This is the key difference. While I don't completely agree with your position, I think there's a big difference between someone who's just had their entire life turned upside down age 50, and someone who is a suicide risk just in normal jogging while they're in basic training.
I think we need to be able to support people who're going through tough times without resorting to kicking them out immediately. I think that in most cases (not all) someone on the suicide risk register in basic officer training is probably unsuited to commission into a high stress job with responsibility for others.
I've heard that a Not Guilty verdict was returned.Another sex based incident again a Monkey
A married Warrant Officer in the British Army shocked a superior female officer by trapping her next to her desk and suddenly kissing her, a court martial heard.www.dailymail.co.uk
Pity they didn't 'review' Catterick and elsewhere, Deepcut is only the poster-boy for this unfortunate fact. Likewise, there's been a few suicides in Tidworth/Larkhill recently, but you don't see them being publicised.The Deepcut Review makes sobering reading and shows how the poor SNCOs can really taint the pot.
Quite a possibility, looks like a she said, he said situation without a shred of supporting evidence. Army officer accused of sexual assault says woman tried to kiss himI've heard that a Not Guilty verdict was returned.
Could not agree more.Pity they didn't 'review' Catterick and elsewhere, Deepcut is only the poster-boy for this unfortunate fact. Likewise, there's been a few suicides in Tidworth/Larkhill recently, but you don't see them being publicised.
Deepcut wasn't only enabled by poor quality SNCOs, the constraints on resource were legion for many years and were mainly the result of poor and misguided senior leadership.
I was being told, at the time the Deepcut investigation was front page news, that the Army Board (?) had made a conscious decision to stand back from all the fuss, on the basis that across the army as a whole, suicide rates were worse than was seen at Deepcut.Pity they didn't 'review' Catterick and elsewhere, Deepcut is only the poster-boy for this unfortunate fact.
I knew at least four similar stories from guys who hid, respectively, flat feet, asthma, peanut allergies, and eczma - all of whom ended up being successful and high quality soldiers, some in the most physically taxing roles - because their understanding of the severity and how to manage their conditions was better than a one line note in a medical record. The changes in attitude to mental health over the past ten years make it actually one of the best managed issues - I had a soldier with something presenting like depression who was really well managed, and I ran into four years later still in and doing well.
Here I'm reminded of the son of a ret'd Lt Col (RE) with whom I worked (20+ years ago)some genetic dispositions (i.e. sickle cell) and when I joined still flat feet, are treated quite sensibly on a case-by-case basis as a risk factor to be treated or managed for those who are serving, but are blanket bars often well behind current medical opinion for joining.
This used to be explained as "it's easier to bar than deal with", assuming each exception takes disproportionate resources to deal with.
Not guilty on all three counts according to the DM.Another at Bulford.
A British Army soldier fondled a female colleague's breasts while she slept and then claimed he had been reaching for a TV remote control, a court martial heard - You couldn't make that up!
Trooper Ratu Salabogi, 29, is accused of sexually assaulting the woman after she fell asleep on a sofa while watching a film in a common room on Bovington Camp in Dorset.www.dailymail.co.uk
Not guilty on all three counts according to the DM.
Soldier cleared of fondling female collegues breasts.
Perhaps, and this is but speculation, that the attitude was "Oh well, they are just Loggies and - Oh look, is that a squirrel?"I was being told, at the time the Deepcut investigation was front page news, that the Army Board (?) had made a conscious decision to stand back from all the fuss, on the basis that across the army as a whole, suicide rates were worse than was seen at Deepcut.
I do not know if that was true, but it's an interesting thought, and believable, even if no more than a rumour.