Interested in tanks, take a look here

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There's quite a variety of tankers on there, American, British, Russian, Israeli, Finish, Swedish, German, Norwegian, Romanian, Australian, Canadian.. It's pretty much the de-facto site for tanks/tank information, both current and former. Currently discussing the CR1 5,600m kill, we've got guys from Lulworth and Bovington checking in.

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#3
I've had a look. It appears to be full of Russian kids who are anally retentive about Russian armour. It seems a T54/55 series can knock crap out of an Abrams and no other answer will be accepted. British tanks don't feature at all and by default then I would say our ancient Centurions, which we sold to Israel, didn't knock out all that Russian kit in the Sinai desert.
 
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#5
With the greatest of respect I think I'd rather have my toenails pulled out without anasthetic LOL. My days of caring about that kind of intensive discussion are well gone. It's all very well knowing your kit inside out but as far as I'm concerned the only thing they need to know about their tanks is that when the silver bullet hits them - none of their figures mean anything.

CR2 and Abrams have proven beyond doubt in combat that they are the dominant tanks on todays battlefield. Yes Leopard III does very well on trials and, as a result, has better exports, but its unproven.
 
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It is in fact a very good site although like any can get a bit tied up, yes the russians are being overprotective but I think we do as well some times, keep looking many varied forums and quite often some unusual phots appear. 8)
 
#7
I just don't want to fall into the "over protective/anally retentive" bracket. I suppose some of the Cassette Heads will want to but not me. I reckon I've forgotten enough to make me sound like a recruit in any case. ;)
 
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You know when I was in, I thought I'd always remember all the things I'd been taught, because I did them every day (especially at Demo Sqn) and was so familiar with them. These days I need to check nearly every single detail LOL
 
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GDav said:
You know when I was in, I thought I'd always remember all the things I'd been taught, because I did them every day (especially at Demo Sqn) and was so familiar with them. These days I need to check nearly every single detail LOL
Know what you mean, still know a bit, but when they started going on about clino-shoots!! Surprising how quickly it comes back though.
 
#11
Listen mate - I can remember scratching my head just looking at a Field Klino - how the feck does anybody expect me to remember it now?

I'd be more than a few seconds out ;)
 
#12
I thought the thread about how many Abrahams M1s had been destroyed,was some pro-gay-lib banter!

Not being queer myself but reading things like,FRONT HULL fuel tanks,is enough to make any ex-MBT crew members rear end start to go wobbly;Or even worse,the comment,not even a bank full of fire extinguishers will put an engine fire out!

But just to get the rear end muscles doing the Half Crown/Sixpence schuffle(for California_Tanker etc.Silver Doller/Dime arrse spasms!),read the account of a RPG 7 Knocking out a M1 in a FRONTAL hit!

After reading this thread and changing my shreddies,I think I´d rather take my chances in a grunt fox-hole than being surrounded by 60 tons of seamingly self-destructing, self immolating, spontaneous combustable hi-tech crap;Or am I just reading the wrong bits? :p
 
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I think you;re reading the wrong bits mate. I'm totally unaware of any Abrams being taken out by enemy fire. Also they have all sorts of safety features inside to prevent the crew toasting in the event of a fire anywhere in the vehicle.

I am aware of a CR2 being disabled by RPG fire and stuck with a track off for over 30 minutes while being pounded. The vehicle is still in service and the crew were uninjured.
 
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There were a couple of blue-on-blue incidens and there was also a fire at a dept which destroyed at least half a dozen. Have we any positive proof that an RPG actually did enough damage to make one U/S - or is it a case of they can blow a track off an nowt else?
 
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I´ve provided the link GDav, makes interesting reading,one guy ´requiem 77´reckons one crew-man died from an RPG attack,and in GW1 an Abrahams was taken out by a BMP with 73mm low pressure gun,firing SP-9 projectile(whatever that is!).

Though the septic habit of trying to look cool,ie sitting on top of the tank cradling the 50 caliber,would even be too much of ´come-on´ for a 15 yr old Belfast petrol bomber!
 
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Yes if someone was sitting out of the cuploa or whatever then they copuld be killed that way but to the best of my knowledge no Abrams (or CR1's or 2's) have been knocked out by enemy fire. Yes they have come under fire and been damaged but not knocked out and certainly not by a frontal hit from an RPG.
 
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GDav said:
There were a couple of blue-on-blue incidens and there was also a fire at a dept which destroyed at least half a dozen. Have we any positive proof that an RPG actually did enough damage to make one U/S - or is it a case of they can blow a track off an nowt else?
There was a case mention in 'Thunder run' where a recoilless rifle round went under the sideskirt and punctured a fuel cell (someone posted a fantastic shot of it spewing fuel all over the shop) , but to be fair it was a very unlikely shot and overlooks the fact the vehicle was demolished, not destroyed by enemy fire. Most of the losses on tanknet appear to be tanks with tracks shot off by RPGs (which were then abandoned) or IEDs. It seems to have done a lot better than it was given credit it for in 2003, but may well have been better off with some Challenger style uparmour.

As for Requiem77, I gave up on arguing with him when he said the reason T80U never made it to GSFG was due to the fact it was top secret. Despite the fact that it never stopped the sovs deploying anything else there including all the rest of the T series. :roll: You are safe ignoring much of what he says. Vasiliy Fofanov and Jim Warford are worth listening to much more when it comes to Sov/Russian armour.

Tanknet is a place worth watching for armour discussions, and thankfully the hysterical pro Russian rantings are rare. If anything, the only problem is that we dont get enough ex British army people on there.
 

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