Intelligence Roles and Sport

Hi All,

I have spent hours on this site looking for answers to this and some other questions but have not had any luck.

I am looking to join the Royal Signals in Electronic Warfare and Signals Intelligence. This is because I love the idea of having a trade that will allow me to progress to an 'elite' level. After loads of research I have decided my goal is to be part of a LEWT and look to progress towards being airborne and then potentially SF (seems as though the world is your oyster with this trade provided you can hack the phys!)

I am 22 and have played rugby to National 1 level up until now (had a professional contract up until age 19), and a big part of me wanting to join the army alongside learning a trade and pushing myself is a chance to compete at rugby at the highest level.

My question is this: If I am working an intelligence based role that requires me to keep national secrets etc, would I be able to have a chance to compete for the Army Rugby Union at the highest level? Or would the fact my position in the army is a secret mean that I am not able to do this?

I appreciate assuming I will get into the army rugby team and passing p-coy etc may seem far fetched, but I am merely asking if I will have the opportunity to do this, or whether this trade is going to mean that my aspirations of doing both won't be possible.

Thanks in advance, I want to make it clear that I am not trying to wind anyone up here, just seeing if I will even have a chance to attempt this.

Any advice on working in a LEWT/Royal Sigs is also appreciated!
 

Glad_its_all_over

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My sense is that if the Army has spent huge amounts of money to train and qualify you in a field where constant training is required, even when qualifed, to remain current and proficient, it might be awkward finding the time required to maintain a position in Army rugby at a very high level.

Ultimately, it'd be down to your chain of command. Some units are content to maintain a cadre of tracksuit warriors, the 'gladiators', who are essentially full-time sportsmen, others, perhaps, not so much.
 
You won't be a tracksuit soldier - other than about a dozen formally selected 'Elite Sportspersons', tracksuit soldiers just aren't a thing any more.

You will absolutely get the chance to play Corps and Army Rugby as an EWOp (or whatever they call it now). If you end up in SF land, they still play rugby when they have the chance, although you probably won't have the time to play Army level Rugby.

You won't be the first person to have done this, it's all been done before.
 
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Glad_its_all_over

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Mixed. Everyone knows they do an important and vital job, but the Corps doesn't do itself too many favours by being a touch 'wannabe' in its Regimental Duty types - i.e. those who, for whatever reason, haven't progressed in their professional hierarchy and went into the military training/admin stream (from which sergeants major and RSMs and the like are selected) and have a reputation for being pretty bullshitty, not that bright and having a massive chip on their shoulders about the close combat arms. This isn't universal, by any means, but it only takes a few cretins to make a reputation.

That said, the Royal Corps has an entire Regiment devoted to supporting UKSF and a large number of hugely interesting (and some crunchy, as well) roles. The EW side of things is particularly interesting and you can find yourself, as a relatively junior type, doing some distinctly unusual things.
 
Sigs? Some really competent people but kind of ruined by 'bulled boots and combats' contingent, as articulated well above. Have been super impressed with some of their soldiers.

You will definitely get the chance to play rugby to a very decent standard almost irrespective of what cap badge you join.
 
Echo what @Glad_its_all_over said - if you join, focus on being a technically competent operator and yearn to be a supervisor. Those aforementioned RD mongs focus on boots and haircuts because they weren't good enough to be a supervisor.

Cream rises to the top - if you're good, you'll end up in a niche job in a good Unit and have a fulfilling career.
 
Echo what @Glad_its_all_over said - if you join, focus on being a technically competent operator and yearn to be a supervisor. Those aforementioned RD mongs focus on boots and haircuts because they weren't good enough to be a supervisor.

Cream rises to the top - if you're good, you'll end up in a niche job in a good Unit and have a fulfilling career.
This sounds like what I need. I want to push myself, get quals and become a specialist in my field

Deffo sold to the idea of being a Signal now!
 
Without sounding rude sock puppet has a point here. I really dont want to be behind a desk 24/7 as that is what I loathe about my current job
I was being a bit rude - on purpose.

In fairness, the Int Corps are a great bunch and tend to get on well with Signallers. If you join as an EWOp, you'll be spending a lot of time with them.

Even though they are basically weaponised autism. The weird bunch of socially awkward virgins.
 

Glad_its_all_over

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I was being a bit rude - on purpose.

In fairness, the Int Corps are a great bunch and tend to get on well with Signallers. If you join as an EWOp, you'll be spending a lot of time with them.

Even though they are basically weaponised autism. The weird bunch of socially awkward virgins.
...who add that vital touch of literacy, humour and sophistication to the boot-bullers and ruler-writers of Her Majesty's Royal Corps of wannabe Guardsmen. Come to that, if you want to see properly socially awkward virgins, you don't have to look far from TM Troop or the IT troglodytes, all of whom will be rocking a Jimmy in their plebeian blue hats.

I spent almost exactly half of my 22 years in the Royal Corps and the other half in the Int Corps and both have their merits. If your bent is towards languages, analysis and doing - occarionally - some odd and interesting stuff, then consider the Int Corps. If you're more technical and keen on bits, bytes, forming the perfect Lissajous on an oscilloscope (see how that dates me), then the Royal Corps would be a good choice.

On the field soldiering side, all cap badges stand together around the Trailer of Knowledge in the hangars, all cap badges go out and play in the woods together and both cap badges feature in the LEWT.
 
Or you could join the Intelligence Corps and be Elite from the very beginning
Come to the Light Side Luke - plenty of opportunities to play rugby, even if it is 7s. Two Int Corps in this team, one now sadly deceased.

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Bloody hell, that was 45 years ago.
 

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