Integrated Review, take your guesses

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LE
Book Reviewer
New tank project with a requirement for 50,000 of them. 35 tonne class, they'll be manned entirely by Karens, or 15 tonnes without the Karens and used to enforce the 6pm curfew for men.

77 Brigade will become the official military arm of the Women's Equality Party. No change in role otherwise.

Diversity hoccifers to be renamed Political Commisars. No change in role.

Red Arrows to be retained, because they're red and pretty.

New meme unit to be set up to combat disinformation such as crap food, dilapidated accomodation or low morale. Any serving member caught posting counter memes to be flogged until morale improves.

New speed sodomy fitness test for the RAF regiment to weed out weaklings and improve standards.

1000 accomodation consultants to be recruited from Matt Hancock's family, friends, buderigar's babysitter's cousins or alumni.

15,000 new civil service MoD staff to be recruited. Due to skills gaps only applicants with Gender Studies or Media Studies degrees will be considered.

All images, weights, specifications and costs of current and future kit to be deemed 'commercially sensitive', unless by happen chance some in the future aren't deeply embarrassing.

18 year interdepartmental feasibility study will be commisioned in 2029 to explore the possibility, no matter how remote, of maybe eventually thinking about replacing the FV432. If this in inconclusive then an upgrade will be considered.

2 cross channel ferries to be bought to replace HMS Queen Elizabeth + Prince of Wales. No budget as yet for aircraft.

Sandhurst to be twinned with the University of East Anglia's women's studies programme.

All second hand Ferret armoured cars available on ebay to be purchased to provide a useful 'medium armour' capability.

All artillery to be retired as it is frightfully noisy and the shells are too heavy.
 

Themanwho

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Book Reviewer
Nukes, apparently, shedloads of 'em, and a new anti-terrorist something or other. Not what I was expecting I will happily admit.

How long before we get nuclear-armed SAS troopers?
 
Rock Apes to be disbanded and replaced with autonomous systems....

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Nukes, apparently, shedloads of 'em, and a new anti-terrorist something or other. Not what I was expecting I will happily admit.

How long before we get nuclear-armed SAS troopers?

I was scratching my head at that one.

Our deterent capability has seemed to work all right so far - now it is not enough ?
Odd.
 

Yokel

LE
I was scratching my head at that one.

Our deterent capability has seemed to work all right so far - now it is not enough ?
Odd.

And arguably less ASW assets to shield it.......

If warhead numbers are to go up I expect some sort of explanation. Could be a red herring maybe?
 

Themanwho

LE
Book Reviewer
I was scratching my head at that one.

Our deterent capability has seemed to work all right so far - now it is not enough ?
Odd.
The most likely justification IMHO is that if we want to take out China (not destroy - just bomb it back to the stone age), then we need more nukes. Whilst wiping UK off the map (ie: total destruction: reducing us to a glowing crater rapidly filling with the Atlantic) would be fairly simple, doing the same to China is not practicable due to simple geography, so we need to aim for qualitative damage rather than quantitative. I'd say that HMG is not confident that 4 Tridents' worth of instant sunshine is enough to reduce PRC's GDP to zero.

IIRC, back in the old cold war days, China was the only nation that actually thought it could survive a global thermonuclear war. Of course there were an awful lot less iphone factories and other infrastructure and an awful lot more peasants in rice paddies back then.
 

Bubbles_Barker

LE
Book Reviewer
I particularly liked the way that the Sun has been trailing that the Reserves will become a 'Dad's Army' type force for 'national disasters'.
 

Bubbles_Barker

LE
Book Reviewer
The most likely justification IMHO is that if we want to take out China (not destroy - just bomb it back to the stone age), then we need more nukes. Whilst wiping UK off the map (ie: total destruction: reducing us to a glowing crater rapidly filling with the Atlantic) would be fairly simple, doing the same to China is not practicable due to simple geography, so we need to aim for qualitative damage rather than quantitative. I'd say that HMG is not confident that 4 Tridents' worth of instant sunshine is enough to reduce PRC's GDP to zero.

IIRC, back in the old cold war days, China was the only nation that actually thought it could survive a global thermonuclear war. Of course there were an awful lot less iphone factories and other infrastructure and an awful lot more peasants in rice paddies back then.
I hardly think even our increased nuclear force would be enough to 'bomb China back to the Stone Age' given that the number of warheads you have is not the number that will eventually make it to their targets.

The need to modernise our nuclear warheads has been around for a while so I think it's more about maintaining the 'credibility' pillar of our nuclear capability than anything else.
 
The most likely justification IMHO is that if we want to take out China (not destroy - just bomb it back to the stone age), then we need more nukes. Whilst wiping UK off the map (ie: total destruction: reducing us to a glowing crater rapidly filling with the Atlantic) would be fairly simple, doing the same to China is not practicable due to simple geography, so we need to aim for qualitative damage rather than quantitative. I'd say that HMG is not confident that 4 Tridents' worth of instant sunshine is enough to reduce PRC's GDP to zero.

IIRC, back in the old cold war days, China was the only nation that actually thought it could survive a global thermonuclear war. Of course there were an awful lot less iphone factories and other infrastructure and an awful lot more peasants in rice paddies back then.

If it gets to the stage of nuclear exchange with China - deterrence has failed and it is Game Over because the Yanks will be piling in as well.

If however a Rogue nation - NK or Iran - decided to lob one, a swift reply with a couple over Pyongyang and a couple over their nuclear development sites - should be enough response.
In which case- we have enough.

Hmmmm .....
 

Bluenose2

Old-Salt
The most likely justification IMHO is that if we want to take out China (not destroy - just bomb it back to the stone age), then we need more nukes. Whilst wiping UK off the map (ie: total destruction: reducing us to a glowing crater rapidly filling with the Atlantic) would be fairly simple, doing the same to China is not practicable due to simple geography, so we need to aim for qualitative damage rather than quantitative. I'd say that HMG is not confident that 4 Tridents' worth of instant sunshine is enough to reduce PRC's GDP to zero.

IIRC, back in the old cold war days, China was the only nation that actually thought it could survive a global thermonuclear war. Of course there were an awful lot less iphone factories and other infrastructure and an awful lot more peasants in rice paddies back then.

It's because we've decided to recycle the missiles themselves after use. That way we can re-use them with replacement warheads and reduce our carbon and waste footprints at the same time.
 

Themanwho

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Book Reviewer
I particularly liked the way that the Sun has been trailing that the Reserves will become a 'Dad's Army' type force for 'national disasters'.
I'm not rejoining unless we get tin pissers, battledress, P14s and a Tommy Gun. But I will happily carry the first aid satchel:

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Themanwho

LE
Book Reviewer
If it gets to the stage of nuclear exchange with China - deterrence has failed and it is Game Over because the Yanks will be piling in as well.

If however a Rogue nation - NK or Iran - decided to lob one, a swift reply with a couple over Pyongyang and a couple over their nuclear development sites - should be enough response.
In which case- we have enough.

Hmmmm .....
I have no specialist knowledge and my previous "NUKE China" guesstimation is my own supposition; the only thing about increasing our nuclear capability that makes sense to me is that with our pivot towards the east, we want to be carrying a large enough stick to enable us to talk softly and still be listened to.

Is this a signal that we are attempting to maintain a UK-only level of credible deterrence? If you consider the instability and uncertainty the last US President brought and the polarised nature of their politics, it may be that UK now believes sole reliance on the US umbrella is not necessarily a good thing. Not that we won't be allies, just that we don't want to be a vassal state.

Or not.
 

PhotEx

On ROPS
On ROPs
I have no specialist knowledge and my previous "NUKE China" guesstimation is my own supposition; the only thing about increasing our nuclear capability that makes sense to me is that with our pivot towards the east, we want to be carrying a large enough stick to enable us to talk softly and still be listened to.

Is this a signal that we are attempting to maintain a UK-only level of credible deterrence? If you consider the instability and uncertainty the last US President brought and the polarised nature of their politics, it may be that UK now believes sole reliance on the US umbrella is not necessarily a good thing. Not that we won't be allies, just that we don't want to be a vassal state.

Or not.


There ya go.

12 Tridents with 1-4 Warheads per is enough to hurt China, but not enough to present an existential threat.
12 Tridents with 8-12 warheads per, that's a different stick altogether.
 

Themanwho

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Book Reviewer
There ya go.

12 Tridents with 1-4 Warheads per is enough to hurt China, but not enough to present an existential threat.
12 Tridents with 8-12 warheads per, that's a different stick altogether.
Away with you, Googler.
 
I particularly liked the way that the Sun has been trailing that the Reserves will become a 'Dad's Army' type force for 'national disasters'.

Completely ignoring that a significant chunk of UK Ops C2 already resides in the AR and that Op ENTIRETY measures reduced this with the inevitable impact in Salisbury.
 
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