Inside the Pakistan-Taliban Relationship: Six Questions

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July 30, 3:41 PM, 2008 · No Comment · Previous · Next

Inside the Pakistan-Taliban Relationship: Six Questions for Ahmed Rashid, Author of Descent Into Chaos
By Scott Horton

The CIA, we learned in a report today, has compiled damning evidence of the Pakistani military’s complicity with the Taliban. But this is hardly news. Indeed, one analyst has repeatedly warned that Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf and his intelligence service have been taking America for a ride, pretending to support U.S. counter-terrorism operations while sheltering and supporting the Taliban and numerous other extremist organizations. That analyst is Ahmed Rashid, and he is the most articulate of the observers of the region between the Oxus and the shores of Karachi. Based in Lahore, Rashid combines scholarly excellence with popular appeal, as demonstrated by his book on the Taliban, which is Yale University Press’s all-time best-seller. Rashid’s latest book, Descent into Chaos pulls back the cover on American operations in Afghanistan, which were hampered from the outset by chronic bad judgment on the part of Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney.
Long article on the link
http://harpers.org/archive/2008/07/hbc-90003347
 
#3
From the underlying NY Times Article today:

The C.I.A. has depended heavily on the ISI for information about militants in Pakistan, despite longstanding concerns about divided loyalties within the Pakistani spy service, which had close relations with the Taliban in Afghanistan before the Sept. 11 attacks.

That ISI officers have maintained important ties to anti-American militants has been the subject of previous reports in The New York Times. But the C.I.A. and the Bush administration have generally sought to avoid criticism of Pakistan, which they regard as a crucial ally in the fight against terrorism.
The ISI have done precisely dick squat in assisting the overall thrust of the campaign, and have simply been yet another missive for that old Islamic virtue of telling the Kaffir what they want to hear, even if it is a bunch of bare faced lies, as long as they serve their own interests.

Their own interests couldn't be much clearer, to enter into treaty and support for the Tailban in the tribal regions as a pure hegemony of armed and dangerous 'citizens' in order to provide so called strategic depth on their western border while their main military focus rests on Kashmir and India (where there has been a repeat of the recent border clash).

FATA has never since year dot been integrated into Pakistan, and they have moved even further away from achieving a mere semblance of unification, although all the politico's paddle desperately up shit creek without even so much as a raft let alone paddles.

So I suggest to gain back some momentum we put forward that the Pakistanis either have to "shit on the pot or get off", and give them a until Christmas '08 to hand over all the Taliban fcuktards (dear or alive it matters not) wrapped up in carpets, tied in black nasty and with a red bow... or we'll simply have to go in and get the cnuts ourselves.

They hand over details on one or two that fall out of being flavour of the month, while I'm sure the main body of the ISI know where the fcuking lot of them are and always have done.

So they are either with us or against us... and it is understood they are not particularly with us... so what next?

How about revoking their soverignty? The Islamic Whamic Indians otherwise known as Pakistanis have had their chance and blew it... so how about a do over? And Fcuk their nukes. If they even so much as sniff in that direction, nuke the lot of them first.

Talib love shite hocks they are.
 
#4
cant we just take out all of their military sites through air power and then let the Indians take over?
 

Grownup_Rafbrat

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#5
We could certainly put a stop to the millions of pounds we give them in aid every year.
 
#6
Perhaps the CIA should look a bit further back to when it was supplying and supporting these guys too. They were well on side when these blokes were slotting Russians.
 
#7
Yesterday we learned that the Australians were going to train the Pakistani special forces. Some things never change 'Know your enemy'
 
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Skynet said:
July 30, 3:41 PM, 2008 · No Comment · Previous · Next

Inside the Pakistan-Taliban Relationship: Six Questions for Ahmed Rashid, Author of Descent Into Chaos
By Scott Horton

The CIA, we learned in a report today, has compiled damning evidence of the Pakistani military’s complicity with the Taliban. But this is hardly news. Indeed, one analyst has repeatedly warned that Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf and his intelligence service have been taking America for a ride, pretending to support U.S. counter-terrorism operations while sheltering and supporting the Taliban and numerous other extremist organizations. That analyst is Ahmed Rashid, and he is the most articulate of the observers of the region between the Oxus and the shores of Karachi. Based in Lahore, Rashid combines scholarly excellence with popular appeal, as demonstrated by his book on the Taliban, which is Yale University Press’s all-time best-seller. Rashid’s latest book, Descent into Chaos pulls back the cover on American operations in Afghanistan, which were hampered from the outset by chronic bad judgment on the part of Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney.
Long article on the link
http://harpers.org/archive/2008/07/hbc-90003347
Just finished this book, excellent apart for the very irritating substandard and misleading maps.

The break up of Afghanistan and Pakistan beckons
 

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