Infantry, how hard physically?

#1
Just wondering how hard physically passing Infantry training is? Reason I ask is, I'm off to see my local TA unit tonight which is an Infantry unit and I'm guessing much if not all the training will be similar to the regulars except being there 24/7.

It means motivating myself and pushing myself in my own spare time to be physically fit enough to pass the training weekends?

Also, whats life like in the Infantry? I don't want to sign up for the TA to be bored and forced into a job/unit that I won't enjoy.

Any reply to give an outsider a taste of whats expected would be very helpful.
 
#2
TA Infantry basic training is a world apart from Regular CIC, the two dont compare. Regular CIC is 6 months of hard work. I never found anything in the TA infantry as demanding.
Most TA Inf guys get to dig a fire trench once or twice in their lifetime -i dug about 6 or 7 in basic and about 4 every exercise in the Bn.
TA will give you a taster but will still leave you with a shock on Regular CIC.

BBM
 
#3
The assessment standards are broadly speaking the same for all parts of the army. Differences occur in terms of the amount of weight you will be asked to carry in a rucksack when you go for a wander in the woods. Infantry up to about 25kg down to i think nearer 10 for the more pedestrian roles.

It depends on where you think your talents lie. Lots of specialist roles you can go for but if you want to deploy every so often i know of a few TA chaps that do tours once a year and have fun in the intervening time. Depnds on civilian job.

If you are a bright character being a private soldier will not flick your switch. If you are looking for something else more challenging, try SF selection.
 
#4
RoyalHighlander42 said:
Infantry up to about 25kg
Fcuk me, wish i'd been in your regt... I could barely pick my bergan up due to all the radios/batteries etc (nothing to do with having flid arms!)
 
#5
cc123 said:
Just wondering how hard physically passing Infantry training is?

Not physically that hard at all apart from Para Reg
 
#6
Sandy_The_Guvnor said:
cc123 said:
Just wondering how hard physically passing Infantry training is?

Not physically that hard at all apart from Para Reg
Your a Para then??!!

I knew the reg's was a constant 6 months training so I'm not going to get the same level of intensity but I will be expect4ed to pass the same fitness tests along the way?

I don't think self motivation will be a problem just thought there might be a divide between the reg's and TA fitness levels?

Do the regs and TA mix well?

Seeing the recruitment guy tonight....
 
#7
[quote="RoyalHighlander42" Infantry up to about 25kgquote]

Your having a fkn laugh mate, 25kg. Carried more than that in my day pack.

BT
 
#8
cc123 said:
Just wondering how hard physically passing Infantry training is? Reason I ask is, I'm off to see my local TA unit tonight which is an Infantry unit and I'm guessing much if not all the training will be similar to the regulars except being there 24/7.

It means motivating myself and pushing myself in my own spare time to be physically fit enough to pass the training weekends?

Also, whats life like in the Infantry? I don't want to sign up for the TA to be bored and forced into a job/unit that I won't enjoy.

Any reply to give an outsider a taste of whats expected would be very helpful.
Depends on your personal physical/ mental "base line" and general attitude to physical activity. You don't need to be "superman" or a "PT hermit", but it is certainly true that life as an infanteer (para or other) requires a degree of robustness that the "average Joe" in today's society would probably find off-putting. If you're a farm labourer, fire fighter, or construction worker, then you'll probably find the training relatively straightforward; if, however, you're in sales, office work or other sedentary occupations, and don't take regular vigorous exercise, then prepare for a shock to the system. BTW, farting around in the gym is not enough - good enough for general cv conditioning, basic strength etc, but running on a treadmill simply is not the same as getting out on the ground - regardless of the weather.

If you can run 3 miles in 20 minutes; walk 10 miles in a couple of hours; do 100 press-ups in one go without stopping/ blowing your last meal, and carry 70lbs over a couple of miles of rough ground, then IMO you've probably got what's required to start serious training. Beyond that, you need to be able to "rough it" - infanteers spend a lot of time on/ in the ground; life is sweaty, dirty, and usually cold, damp and uncomfortable: if life without two hot showers a day, clean sheets, regular meals of digestible quality, and lots of preening/ hair gelling etc is not to your taste, then don't do it! At least as many fail to complete infantry training because of an inability to cope with the constant exposure to the elements/ general discomfort as do due to the demands of PT per se. So a positive attitude, good "personal admin", and attention to detail - all basically a reflection of self-discipline - are very important.

If you've played competitive team games (especially of the "contact" variety - eg rugby, water polo) and enjoyed them; been an active scout (don't laugh!)/ cadet or done DoE Awards/ "Outward Bound" type activities; worked as a binman, hod carrier, gravedigger or similar, then these, IMO, are good indicators that you've a better than average chance of coping with the demands.

Best wishes,

Wessex.
 
#9
RoyalHighlander42 said:
The assessment standards are broadly speaking the same for all parts of the army. Differences occur in terms of the amount of weight you will be asked to carry in a rucksack when you go for a wander in the woods. Infantry up to about 25kg down to i think nearer 10 for the more pedestrian roles.

It depends on where you think your talents lie. Lots of specialist roles you can go for but if you want to deploy every so often i know of a few TA chaps that do tours once a year and have fun in the intervening time. Depnds on civilian job.

If you are a bright character being a private soldier will not flick your switch. If you are looking for something else more challenging, try SF selection.
Are you really in the Army?
 
#10
Wessex_Man said:
do 100 press-ups in one go without stopping.

I don't want to sound like I'm questioning your integrity here, though I have met a surprisingly small number of people who can do 100 press ups without stopping; when they are doing proper press-ups.

Looking at what some of those so-called endurance athletes consider a proper press-up is a fcuking!

"I can do a thousand pressups without stopping!" they cry.

Well, so could I probably if i was only giving an inch or two of movement...
 
#11
Social Handgrenade and Brew Time, reading is not your forte, the assessment standards which i am sure you will find if dig a little deeper into your gym, are 25 Kg for things like 8 miler and the 2 day 12 and 13 mile events. Of course when you actually go on exercise you will be carrying a shed load of ammo and water. I am guessing from the tone of your posts probably a lot of 'gucci' kit you don't need as well, but crack of and destroy your own backs!

Now Sandy The Guvnor, of course it is not that hard. You just have to pass the basic assessments. Even in the 'Reg' (words of few Syllables, lets keep it easy!) standards are dropping. I have passed soldier out of phase 1 who were accepted for phase 2 Parachute Regiment training, who were not running the required 9.30 minute 1.5 mile runs. Even though you have been cut to 2 battalions you still cannot recruit and man your slots, so standards are dropping! These crows were running 10 - 10.15 minute runs! For the record, i stated they should not have been accepted but they were lapped up with open arms.

Wessex Man, bang on. Perfect advice.
 
#12
Good reply Wessex, TBH I'm expecting all the crap of the day to be thrown at me during the training weekends.

At the moment I'm doing about 3 x 4.3 mile run's per week aswell as my usually 3/4 hours of 5-a-side everyweek and some gym work. I've just change jobs so I'm going to start running to/fro work in the monrings and nights (about 8 miles every day all in) and I'll start steping up aiming for better times.

I used to do some circuit training at boxing so I have a fair idea of getting pushed on till I can't take no more (in a way).

Recruitment guy was spot on, told it how it was. The good and bad points, what I'm potentially getting myself into. Should have my selection weekend some time in March.

Thanks for the replys.
 

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#13
RoyalHighlander42 said:
If you are a bright character being a private soldier will not flick your switch. If you are looking for something else more challenging, try SF selection.
cc,

Please ignore this ridiculous statement. Many people join the TA infantry as an antidote to their usual daily activities. Most TA units have a wide variety of characters across the ranks.

Our junior ranks include barristers, lawyers, scientists, airline pilots etc etc, and this is in a unit which is supposed to struggle with spelling tests.

Duke
 
#14
^^^ Part of the reason I'm joining it to escape the monotony of daily life and my 8-5 office job. I used to be alot more active when I was younger but now I NEED an outlet at the weekends that doesn't involve the usual crap that life provides, I get bored easily and need a challenge.

I can see his point tho, not all office type workers (or folk that have had an easy life) will enjoy an infantry role.
 
#15
I was an office type before joining the Regular army and didn't have any problem with the training -it was hard yes, but nothing i didn't expect.
I have also worked on building sites which was a darn site easier than Infantry training.
If you get into the right mindset you will not have a problem -it's not the boy scouts so people should expect some hardships.

BBM
 
#16
CC123 - spot on in your reasons for wanting to join, possibly the only reason that will make you carry through. Wessex-man's also spot-on; it's one matter to be able to pass the fitness assessments. They are pretty easy, overall, and if not, well, you can train (I have to say though that the TA standard can be pretty poor, and needs to kept on top of by the individual and also built into training by TA officers). More important is the ability to load up with 'kit and kaboodle', withstand long exertion and still function both physically and mentally - even if you're dog tired, chilled to the bone and having to fake cheerfulness. Mindset, you'll find, is more important to you - but you can't do it without fitness as the pre-cursor.
 
#17
RoyalHighlander42 said:
Now Sandy The Guvnor, of course it is not that hard. You just have to pass the basic assessments. Even in the 'Reg' (words of few Syllables, lets keep it easy!) standards are dropping. I have passed soldier out of phase 1 who were accepted for phase 2 Parachute Regiment training, who were not running the required 9.30 minute 1.5 mile runs. Even though you have been cut to 2 battalions you still cannot recruit and man your slots, so standards are dropping! These crows were running 10 - 10.15 minute runs! For the record, i stated they should not have been accepted but they were lapped up with open arms.

Complete rubbish
 
#18
Total rubbish, i mean they were in my platoon so who am i to know their run times and the long winded process of them getting away with not being fit. Obviously you know better than me because you were there????? :shakefist:
 
#19
RoyalHighlander42 said:
Now Sandy The Guvnor, of course it is not that hard. You just have to pass the basic assessments. Even in the 'Reg' (words of few Syllables, lets keep it easy!) standards are dropping. I have passed soldier out of phase 1 who were accepted for phase 2 Parachute Regiment training, who were not running the required 9.30 minute 1.5 mile runs. Even though you have been cut to 2 battalions you still cannot recruit and man your slots, so standards are dropping! These crows were running 10 - 10.15 minute runs! For the record, i stated they should not have been accepted but they were lapped up with open arms.
What a complete and utter stupid EDITED you are! We still have three Battalions. 1 PARA are working with SF. They haven't been disbanded or renamed. We still have 2 & 3 PARA. At present there is a five month waiting list to start Para Regt basic training. Standards haven't dropped in the slightest as the joes on Herrick 4 proved to a man. I do not believe you either in regards to your unfit joes joining Para Regt. You are a waste of rations. Please kill yourself immediately.
 
#20
cc123 said:
Just wondering how hard physically passing Infantry training is? Reason I ask is, I'm off to see my local TA unit tonight which is an Infantry unit and I'm guessing much if not all the training will be similar to the regulars except being there 24/7.

It means motivating myself and pushing myself in my own spare time to be physically fit enough to pass the training weekends?

Also, whats life like in the Infantry? I don't want to sign up for the TA to be bored and forced into a job/unit that I won't enjoy.

Any reply to give an outsider a taste of whats expected would be very helpful.
cc123: How did your interview go?

Back in the 80s I had the privilege of being training platoon commander for 3 regular training platoons - 6 months each in those days- and three TA platoons, for one of which I was myself a TA officer (very recent 2Lt and frankkly didn't have much of a clue). My last posting was as adjutant of the TA battalion where I had been that green 2Lt 10 years before, so I had the opportunity for a second look at a TA unit after 6+ years of regular service.

Then, as I suspect now, the theoretical standards expected of TA recruits (and trained soldiers) were similar to those of regulars in many respects, but the reality was different. Regular soldiers had the opportunity to develop their fitness several times a week, and while some struggled to pass out of recruit training and, indeed, in the battakion, most were indeed pretty fit; TA soldiers could not achieve the same standards during 2-week camps or as a result of weekend training, and few, in my experience, spent sufficient time on physical training in their own time. Some regular recruits, however, started from very low standards and, while they were able to make huge improvements, they never reached "superman" standards.

So, if you are physically fit now - and what you say suggests you may start from a better standard than many - you should be able to pass TA training better than others. Do bear in mind, however, that physical fitness is not the end of the matter - general all-round robustness is more important than the ability to sprint 100 meters, and I would define this in two ways:

*the ability to walk long distances carrying heavy loads - hillwalking with tent and supplies for 2/3 days while climbing peaks in Snowdonia/Lakes/Scottish Munros, and

*the ability to stay awake for 72hrs non-stop, and to survive for extended periods (say 5 weeks) on just 4 hours sleep per day. while being generally fcuk-ed around.

If you do indeed thrive on that, then you may indeed find the TA, and maybe even the regular, infantry tame. Try it, succeed, and then you can either move on to a more demanding unit (Para/RM, or even SAS) OR mover apidly into a leadership position, be it NCO or commissioned, where you can be more stretched yourself, both physically and mentally, while you have the opportunity to extend the physcial training of your colleagues. In my experience promotion to the junior ranks could come quicker in the TA than the regular army.

Whatever you do, don't decide NOT to join the TA because it's "not difficult enough" or "too boring"- it can be as physically demanding and as demanding as you make it. The same applies to the regulars - although the base level is rather higher. Good luck!
 

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