Infantry behavior

#2
Your link is utterly, utterly useless.
 
#3
no truth - never saw that in ten years - did see some Paras fighting once - with each other :wink:
 
#6
From page 2 of the link - once I'd found it:)

he crazy thing is, they're actually proud of their reputation(s) for utter destruction outside of the battlefield. When I was Gd Cdr in Iraq a few years ago, the Ord Sgt was a Guards L/Sgt (a Cpl in real life, but for some reason he was Ord Sgt) who actually bragged that 20 of his regiment had been banged up during block leave, like they were all well 'ard! He got quite chopsy when I told him that obviously says a lot about of the leadership and management quality of the army and behaviour was almost unheard of in the RAF as our NCOs/Officers have a far superior quality and have a proper grip of our troops and we are told from day 00 of recruit training where the line is and told of the robust retribution that will follow if we cross it. I know the line sometimes does get crossed, before I am told to take my rose-tinted specs off, but our behaviour and social standing is far greater.

The Infantry (and indeed the Army as a whole) have to be taught to breathe in and out. They even have to be told how to wash properly!!! No wonder they kick off when surrounded by normal, civilised society - they're told from day 1 that they're not allowed to think for themselves.
(My emphasis)
This sort of attitude confirms why I tend to dislike most RAF. He failed to mention that their Cpls are (or certainly can be) about 50!

I heard a RAF officer in MPA discussing that he thought a RAF Cpl was the equivalent of an Army Sgt / SSgt due to their experience. He seemed to get a little upset when told by the Pongos surrounding him that he was fundamentally mistaken!

Utterly, Utterly Crab.
 
#7
were the beer crates bolted down ?


some in that thread said
"Trouble is, the infantry are the chavs' way in to the military"

thats right the infantry wear burburry and herni lloyd jackets and are normally seen hanging around on street corners doing nothing.
 

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#10
For once I think the crab is correct. They are complete tossers. :oops:

Fancy breaking into the JRs mess and only stealing a few crates of beer. :dead: What about the bottles of vodka, whisky, rum etc? Ciggys for those that do? Personally I think the guys that did this should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves (when they sober up!).

Surely 'Actions on breaking into the JRs mess' should include a bit more than a few crates of beer. IMHO :headbang:
 
#11
I think this just shows how much the RAF misunderstand the Army. They really do live in their own little world. They have their 'trades' and jobs to get on with, keeping camps running and aircraft flying, which they do particularly well. Aircrews train for war as part of their job.

The RAF ground element are basically so focused on their trades that the defence of the installations/aircraft they work on is done by the RAF Regiment. They are not trained to fight.

That is why this particular bloke finds the Infantry so abhorrant - he doesn't understand what they do (apart from robbing the mess!). Other NATO airforces are a bit more 'militarised' (but they are not as good at their 'trades').

Wingeing crabs, I say scrap their brylcreem allowance and make 'em all do 10 milers! :lol:
 
#13
The RAF are civilians, albeit civilians in blue serge trousers and nose cone painted shoes.

They are not a fighting force in the true sense e.g. aggression on tap combined with physical robustness etc.

The RAF need replacing with Easy Jet. Your average gay, orange wearing flight attendant has more fighting spirit than those mincing honchos.

I'm getting vexed now so I'm popping out to induce a coronary in a 47 year old SAC, I'm threatening him with a PT session.
 
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Auld-Yin said:
For once I think the crab is correct. They are complete tossers. :oops:

Fancy breaking into the JRs mess and only stealing a few crates of beer. :dead: What about the bottles of vodka, whisky, rum etc? Ciggys for those that do? Personally I think the guys that did this should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves (when they sober up!).

Surely 'Actions on breaking into the JRs mess' should include a bit more than a few crates of beer. IMHO :headbang:
Must have been a well behaved bunch of Nancies in your day. I would have expected them to have done the bandits, shit on the counter and set fire to the womens bogs on the way out at least.
 
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toady said:
From page 2 of the link - once I'd found it:)

he crazy thing is, they're actually proud of their reputation(s) for utter destruction outside of the battlefield. When I was Gd Cdr in Iraq a few years ago, the Ord Sgt was a Guards L/Sgt (a Cpl in real life, but for some reason he was Ord Sgt) who actually bragged that 20 of his regiment had been banged up during block leave, like they were all well 'ard! He got quite chopsy when I told him that obviously says a lot about of the leadership and management quality of the army and behaviour was almost unheard of in the RAF as our NCOs/Officers have a far superior quality and have a proper grip of our troops and we are told from day 00 of recruit training where the line is and told of the robust retribution that will follow if we cross it. I know the line sometimes does get crossed, before I am told to take my rose-tinted specs off, but our behaviour and social standing is far greater.

The Infantry (and indeed the Army as a whole) have to be taught to breathe in and out. They even have to be told how to wash properly!!! No wonder they kick off when surrounded by normal, civilised society - they're told from day 1 that they're not allowed to think for themselves.
having spent over four years serving on one RAF base or another, i can not recall a single impressive RAF NCO off the top of my head. have lost count of the number of army ones though. perhaps that says something.
 

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Biscuits_AB said:
Auld-Yin said:
For once I think the crab is correct. They are complete tossers. :oops:

Fancy breaking into the JRs mess and only stealing a few crates of beer. :dead: What about the bottles of vodka, whisky, rum etc? Ciggys for those that do? Personally I think the guys that did this should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves (when they sober up!).

Surely 'Actions on breaking into the JRs mess' should include a bit more than a few crates of beer. IMHO :headbang:
Must have been a well behaved bunch of Nancies in your day. I would have expected them to have done the bandits, s*** on the counter and set fire to the womens bogs on the way out at least.
Women's bogs - in the JR Mess WTF for? :twisted:
 
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toady said:
From page 2 of the link - once I'd found it:)

he crazy thing is, they're actually proud of their reputation(s) for utter destruction outside of the battlefield. When I was Gd Cdr in Iraq a few years ago, the Ord Sgt was a Guards L/Sgt (a Cpl in real life, but for some reason he was Ord Sgt) who actually bragged that 20 of his regiment had been banged up during block leave, like they were all well 'ard! He got quite chopsy when I told him that obviously says a lot about of the leadership and management quality of the army and behaviour was almost unheard of in the RAF as our NCOs/Officers have a far superior quality and have a proper grip of our troops and we are told from day 00 of recruit training where the line is and told of the robust retribution that will follow if we cross it. I know the line sometimes does get crossed, before I am told to take my rose-tinted specs off, but our behaviour and social standing is far greater.

The Infantry (and indeed the Army as a whole) have to be taught to breathe in and out. They even have to be told how to wash properly!!! No wonder they kick off when surrounded by normal, civilised society - they're told from day 1 that they're not allowed to think for themselves.
(My emphasis)
This sort of attitude confirms why I tend to dislike most RAF. He failed to mention that their Cpls are (or certainly can be) about 50!

I heard a RAF officer in MPA discussing that he thought a RAF Cpl was the equivalent of an Army Sgt / SSgt due to their experience. He seemed to get a little upset when told by the Pongos surrounding him that he was fundamentally mistaken!

Utterly, Utterly Crab.
I had the exact same bold highlighted, but couldn't summon the energy to write anything at 6 this morning. I think the O/S did well not to rip his head off.
 
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Auld-Yin said:
Biscuits_AB said:
Auld-Yin said:
For once I think the crab is correct. They are complete tossers. :oops:

Fancy breaking into the JRs mess and only stealing a few crates of beer. :dead: What about the bottles of vodka, whisky, rum etc? Ciggys for those that do? Personally I think the guys that did this should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves (when they sober up!).

Surely 'Actions on breaking into the JRs mess' should include a bit more than a few crates of beer. IMHO :headbang:
Must have been a well behaved bunch of Nancies in your day. I would have expected them to have done the bandits, s*** on the counter and set fire to the womens bogs on the way out at least.
Women's bogs - in the JR Mess WTF for? :twisted:
Visiting RAF?
 

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