Inexpensive trip to Paris with my 2 Ladies.

I'd like to do a last minute trip next weekend with my 2 ladies, one of whom is only 13 months old to Paris.

I'm not cheap, but I'd like to keep the cost down on wear to stay, and avoid having to drive in Paris.

What I'm thinking is ferry from Dover Friday, stay somewhere nice outside Paris, train into town Sat and Sun, mooch around the sites.

Any tips, recommendations, pitfalls to avoid would be welcomed, particularly getting around the Paris underground with a pram.



Why not just take the Eurostar?
Its a good season, not too busy, stay in town. You have to go a long way outside to find somewhere nice, not worth it for a weekend.
Look for some of the good hotel deals with the big 4* chains as a starting point, or opodo/expedia etc for a complete package.
Cannot help you with the pram problem, but I manage fine with a wheeled business suitcase.
Chantilly is nice and an easy train journey into Paris. Use the bus rather than the métro if you have a pushchair. It is also much easier to walk around the centre rather than use public transport (lots of stairs and barriers to negotiate).If you are a serving officer you can stay in the FR Officers' Club: hope it is not this weekend, the Prix de l'Arc is on and everything is booked up me if you have specific questionsfmp
The Château de Chantilly has magnificent grounds which are good for children to run around and the horse museum is worth a visit too. There is a nice little racecourse if you are into racing, as well as an English tea room and Anglican Church (originally built for the anglophone racing community and stable lads, not sure how many of the latter attended services!). It is also the home of crème de Chantilly - the French version of whipped cream. Insert your own cream and lace jokes here ....
Reiterate fairmaidofperth's point about the Metro/RER with a buggy. It is an absolute nightmare & unless you & Mrs SamCro are prepared to physically manhandle the chariot over barriers/up & down stairs you will not get around easily. There are virtually no wide-access gates and very many of the gates are un manned so there are no staff to assist in any way.

I'd also avoid the area round Sacre Coeur like the plague if you have a buggy. There are some very, very agressive, drugged up, drunk, black beggars round there who will not take no for an answer. You need to be able to bug out fast - I had a needle pulled on me there relatively recently when I was looking after MrsPlume's lovely but very un streetwise nieve & nephew from NZ.


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Potentially controversial suggestion here, but we did it last year and worked well (admittedly without a kid)

We managed to get a last minute deal at one of the Disney Hotels - actually pretty cheap and not that Disney-ish.

The bonus is that there's shuttle buses every 2 minutes from the hotel to the train station. Then every 15 minutes there's a Eurostar (15-20 minutes) straight into the centre of Paris. The other bonus is that its always easy to find your way back to Disney, and back at the hotel everyone will speak the Queen's English.
The other bonus is that its always easy to find your way back to Disney, and back at the hotel everyone will speak the Queen's English.
It's alright, foreigners understand English if you E-N-U-N-C-I-A-T-E, speak S-L-O-W-L-Y and assume you are dealing with an educationally sub normal child.

If that doesn't work, then you can start shouting :wink:
It's not easy negotiating a pushchair in Paris, be prepared to carry it up and down stairs. However, getting a cello through the barriers is even worse!
When Miss Flaggie was smaller, we used one of these to tote her around and she loved it:

eaves both hands free for other luggage/tickets/whatever, and is much more pleasant than getting through the Paris Métro with a pushchair, which we've also done.

No idea what Eurostar charge, but EasyJet would be around £300 return for two adults and an infant.
Having said which, Eurostar is loads more civilized.
It's not cheap. but there's a very good apartment hotel job out by the Stade de France. Immediately next to it is a very good brasserie type place.

The advantage of the appartment hotel was it had a mini-kitchen so we could warm stuff up for MasterPlume & the room could be divided so he could sleep & MrsPlume & I could get up to what adults want to get up to in Gay Paree (catching up on sleep mainly :wink: )

The local area is no great shakes & was essentially closed on a Sunday when we arrived, hence my first ever meal in Paris with MrsPlume was in the Scottish Restaurant (although you can, I confirm, get a beer in there...)
If you are looking for a quick tour of the major sites then check out the following :The Foxity Concept | Paris sightseeing tour

As mentioned above, Disneyland has loads of hotels and it is a short train journey into the centre. You would be safer there than some dodgy suburb. West of Paris is safe but more expensive. Disney hotels - Hotels in Paris - Disneyland® Resort Paris

Keep your passports and money safe, avoid Romanian gypsies and do not pick up any rings from the pavement ....

There is a sliding scale for drinks, cheapest is standing at the bar, then sitting down, priciest is outside. Sometimes the price goes up at night. It costs a fortune to drink (even a coffee) at tourist spots. You are much better off finding where the locals hang out.

If you can, eat here, my favourite restaurant, I've been a regular since 1979 .... Bouillon Chartier

Rue Mouffetard is worth a visit, it is an open air market and full of atmosphere.

Bon weekend!
Rather then going there to see the sights, smell stinky french people and gralic....and eat crap french food....just use Google Maps with street view.....all the sights with none of the crowds.
Paris is a lovely city but wouldn't go with a baby it will be a right pain in the arse. Have you thought about Amiens its en route to Paris. Markets days Sat and Sun lots of culture if you desire cheaper parking, the hotels and restaurants will be far better value for money. Not saying you should do this just a thought from experience.
Thank you all so very much for your time and advice!

We're going with the Eurostar/hotel combo, though haven't booked yet, though we quite like (the price!) of this one:- Hotel Champlain Short Breaks and Holidays by Train - Railbookers

Reasonable all-rounder we thought, though I need to have a look on a map with a scale to see walking distance to a couple of the key sights. We will probably use the babycarry rucksack just for ease of use taking into account what has been said about the Metro, though we may take a lightweight buggy as 'back-up' for hitting the streets.

If anyone knows of a Eurostar/hotel deal for 2 or 3 nights for less than £240 per person, please post a link up here or PM me please.

Thanks once again for the advice!
You'll be all right for the big department stores then, straight down the hill. Also for the stringed instrument workshops which are concentrated in rue de Rome ...

Seriously, it's a good area, the 17th is safe, quiet at night but with good transport connections. I work 5 mins from St Lazare so if you have any specific questions please pm them.

Bon weekend!
I guess you already went on your trip but I thought I would post these tips in case someone else is reading this thread looking for tips on traveling around Paris.

For cheaper hotels you could look into home exchange websites like wimdu or 9Flats for people who are offering up their homes or apartments for a low price.

You maybe able to find a cheap hotel or vacation package on the group on webpage

Also you can buy a Paris visit card - for unlimited travel on the metro and trains. Alot of Paris's attractions are located close to one another. Plan ahead of time and look at a metro map before you go so that you don't waste more time than necessary in the metro.
Don't miss the often overlooked Museu de Chaussures de Plage near the Louvre.

It's stunning exhibits were donated to Paris by the great French philanthropist, Phillipe Felloppes.

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