India plans first manned space flight in 2016

#1
So do we get to stick a 'part funded by the UK FCO' sticker on the side?



India plans first manned space flight in 2016

India's space agency is planning the nation's first manned space flight for 2016, if it gets government approval of the project budget, an official said Thursday.

By Muneeza Naqvi, for AP in New Dehli
Published: 11:34AM GMT 28 Jan 2010
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India's maiden lunar mission Chandrayaan-1, which means 'Moon Craft' in ancient Sanskrit Photo: AP

The Indian space research organisation has sought 120 billion rupees (£1.6 billion) to put two astronauts in space for a week, spokesman S Satish said.
The government has already provided a pre-project fund of about four billion rupees (£53 million) allowing the agency to do some initial research on the space flight, he said, adding that ISRO is "hopeful" of getting the entire project approved soon so it can start making full-scale preparations.



In October 2008, India launched Chandrayaan-1, its first satellite orbiting the moon, but had to abandon it nearly a year later after communication links snapped and scientists lost control of the satellite.

Chandrayaan-1 put India in an elite club of countries with moon missions. Similar satellites have been launched by the United States, Russia, the European Space Agency, Japan and China.

As India's economy has boomed in recent years, it has sought to convert its new found wealth — built on its high-tech sector — into political and military clout and stake a claim as a world leader.

India's neighbor and rival China has been forging ahead in space and in 2003 became the first Asian country to put its own astronauts into space. It followed that in 2008 with its first spacewalk.

India plans to follow the Chandrayaan, which means "moon craft" in Sanskrit, by landing a rover on the moon in 2011.

India began its space program in the 1960s and since 1975 has launched more than 50 remote sensing and communication satellites of its own and 22 for other nations, Satish said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/ex...-plans-first-manned-space-flight-in-2016.html
 

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#2
It'll be good for those poor folks eating soya and supplements on the international space station to get a nice ruby for a change.
 
#4
vvaannmmaann said:
When you say "part funded",how big a part are we funding?
Well, we bung India over £800 million in aid each year.

Now, being as how they are putting men on the moon, there are obviously no poor people in India no more so that FCO aid must be for spaceships rather than wells.
 
#5
Alsacien said:
It'll be good for those poor folks eating soya and supplements on the international space station to get a nice ruby for a change.
No chance feller. The ruby, in the form of a high energy vindaloo, is what's powering the damned rocket to get it off the ground. Nothing but low density popadoms for the baltinauts to eat I'm afraid to say.
 
#7
2016? About 5 hours and 40 mins to go, they better get cracking.
 
#8
First Tandoori in space?

How about a name competition for it?
 
#9
vvaannmmaann said:
When you say "part funded",how big a part are we funding?
According to Hansard & FCO website. In 2009 it was £800m over 3 years.

hmmm, same amount as those Dole over payments.
 
#12
Semper_Flexibilis said:
vvaannmmaann said:
When you say "part funded",how big a part are we funding?
Well, we bung India over £800 million in aid each year.

Now, being as how they are putting men on the moon, there are obviously no poor people in India no more so that FCO aid must be for spaceships rather than wells.
48% of Indian children are malnourished. There is famine in some parts of the country. The Indian Communist Party is already running some Indian states. Many of the biggest Indian companies pay no tax at all while the government hoses money at 'prestige' projects.

As a popular beat combo once said 'I predict a riot'.
 
#14
KnightsofRowallan said:
vvaannmmaann said:
When you say "part funded",how big a part are we funding?
According to Hansard & FCO website. In 2009 it was £800m over 3 years.

hmmm, same amount as those Dole over payments.
So lets get this right we are giving India less that £1 per person every 3 years, bl**dy generous aren't we (2001 population was 1,028,610,328)

I reckon that by 2016 India will have become more powerfull than China ecconomically, they are already catching up fast, and more frighteninly for us they are really eyeing up the high tech markets.
 
#15
maxi_77 said:
KnightsofRowallan said:
vvaannmmaann said:
When you say "part funded",how big a part are we funding?
According to Hansard & FCO website. In 2009 it was £800m over 3 years.

hmmm, same amount as those Dole over payments.
So lets get this right we are giving India less that £1 per person every 3 years, bl**dy generous aren't we (2001 population was 1,028,610,328)

I reckon that by 2016 India will have become more powerfull than China ecconomically, they are already catching up fast, and more frighteninly for us they are really eyeing up the high tech markets.
They take money from us because they're poor.

They spend their own money on space rockets because they can afford it.

We shut down the TA last year to save £20 Million, but we can give India £266M a year? Sorry, post-colonial guilt only goes so far. Ooh, it do make I cross.
 
#16
2017 eh? The monocular oaf will doubtless be sending masses of our cash to India to help with the programme.

Meanwhile, we live with an Underground railway system in our capital city that fails on a daily basis.
 
#17
maxi_77 said:
KnightsofRowallan said:
vvaannmmaann said:
When you say "part funded",how big a part are we funding?
According to Hansard & FCO website. In 2009 it was £800m over 3 years.

hmmm, same amount as those Dole over payments.
So lets get this right we are giving India less that £1 per person every 3 years, bl**dy generous aren't we (2001 population was 1,028,610,328)

I reckon that by 2016 India will have become more powerfull than China ecconomically, they are already catching up fast, and more frighteninly for us they are really eyeing up the high tech markets.
Spoke to some IT support chappies based in Gibraltar recently. They were Indian!

Undeniably, their technical skills could not be faulted. But the real reason Indian tech companies are conquering the world is because they are exempt from corporation tax in India. Compare with UK companies that pay 28% tax plus another 12.8% of their wage bill in the form of National Insurance. Don't even think about the cost of European directives, maternity leave (12 months from today IIRC), 'elf and safety, human rights innit, etc etc.

This is exacerbated by the fact that, in the UK, Indian workers are given a dispensation from UK income tax, national insurance and VAT. They also have 'on demand' access to the UK without having to go through the points system to obtain a work visa.

The bottom line is that a load of UK companies are sacking their British staff and replacing them with Indian contractors. I lunched in a BT canteen recently with a relative who works there. Of the dozens of diners, you could count the number of white faces on one hand.

Thanks Gordon.
 
#18
Ancient_Mariner said:
Spoke to some IT support chappies based in Gibraltar recently. They were Indian!

Undeniably, their technical skills could not be faulted. But the real reason Indian tech companies are conquering the world is because they are exempt from corporation tax in India. Compare with UK companies that pay 28% tax plus another 12.8% of their wage bill in the form of National Insurance. Don't even think about the cost of European directives, maternity leave (12 months from today IIRC), 'elf and safety, human rights innit, etc etc.

This is exacerbated by the fact that, in the UK, Indian workers are given a dispensation from UK income tax, national insurance and VAT. They also have 'on demand' access to the UK without having to go through the points system to obtain a work visa.

The bottom line is that a load of UK companies are sacking their British staff and replacing them with Indian contractors. I lunched in a BT canteen recently with a relative who works there. Of the dozens of diners, you could count the number of white faces on one hand.

Thanks Gordon.
'Gordon' he of the single working brain-cell, only knows one single thing:

he imposes taxes.

We are taxed in this country to the point of extinction but why? Our transport systems fail daily; we are over-run by 'asylum' seekers and illegal immigrants all being 'paid' by our tax; we fail to educate children despite gigantic sums being thrown at the state 'education' system. We have a shameful NHS which has become an over-managed expensive sick joke! The police, politicised sadly, are ham-strung by fatuous and inept legislation. Brussels bleed us, financially and by restrictive diktats -which we unfailingly obey. The appalling 'Uman Rights (no responsibilities mentioned) and the equally stupid plethora of 'Elf & Safety legislation combine to destroy any initiative attempted.

The shameful attack on 'the City', born of spite and undiluted malice, is akin to a human shooting himself in the heart. The 'attack' on bankers is purely for propaganda purposes and to divert attention away from the real problem with the nation's finances, namely: G. Brown.

As an example of Brown's puerile demeanour and infantile behaviour he blocked the knighthood for the last Lord Mayor of London. This man, Ian Luder, a former Labour councillor, defended the reputation of bankers. Brown sulked and probably stamped his feet and refused to allow Luder to be knighted as is the custom for retiring Lord Mayors of the City.

The list of ills in this country is endless and all 'Gordon' can do is grand-stand and give away our tax money. He is a hopeless disgrace!
 
#19
Ancient_Mariner said:
maxi_77 said:
KnightsofRowallan said:
vvaannmmaann said:
When you say "part funded",how big a part are we funding?
According to Hansard & FCO website. In 2009 it was £800m over 3 years.

hmmm, same amount as those Dole over payments.
So lets get this right we are giving India less that £1 per person every 3 years, bl**dy generous aren't we (2001 population was 1,028,610,328)

I reckon that by 2016 India will have become more powerfull than China ecconomically, they are already catching up fast, and more frighteninly for us they are really eyeing up the high tech markets.
Spoke to some IT support chappies based in Gibraltar recently. They were Indian!

Undeniably, their technical skills could not be faulted. But the real reason Indian tech companies are conquering the world is because they are exempt from corporation tax in India. Compare with UK companies that pay 28% tax plus another 12.8% of their wage bill in the form of National Insurance. Don't even think about the cost of European directives, maternity leave (12 months from today IIRC), 'elf and safety, human rights innit, etc etc.

This is exacerbated by the fact that, in the UK, Indian workers are given a dispensation from UK income tax, national insurance and VAT. They also have 'on demand' access to the UK without having to go through the points system to obtain a work visa.

The bottom line is that a load of UK companies are sacking their British staff and replacing them with Indian contractors. I lunched in a BT canteen recently with a relative who works there. Of the dozens of diners, you could count the number of white faces on one hand.

Thanks Gordon.
Indian nationals wanting to settle in the UK will need to satisfy the normal requirements but those an long tern secondment will not, just as I have staff in the US with green cards. Equally double taxation agreements will mean employees of an Indian company will not pay UK taxes because he is paying Indian taxes, just as my chaps do not pay US taxes but UK taxes. There are always various perks for staff seconded overseas and I see no reason why the Indians should not do exactly as we do.

Yes India has been targeting the IT market because for some reason they seem to breed a lot of good mathemetitians. Mind you with a population over 1 billion it is not surprisint they can roll out a fair number of 'rocket scientists.

As for companies switching to lower cost sources, better to do that than to go out of business because some one undercuts your cost structure.

Many years ago the company I worked for subcontracted heavy machinery manufacture in the UK but to stay in business we ended up sourcing in Italy and Japan because the cost/quality result kept us in business. Today I suspect the kit comes from china or india for the same reason. When you work in a global market you need to be competitive globally.

As for India, IT is only part of their plans, lets face it they have a very strong grip on world steel as well and have eyes on the auto market. Outside Europe you will find a lot of the newer trucks come from India. China will not be the worlds manufacturer for long as India has it's eyes firmly focused on that title.
 

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