India confirms the purchase of 36 Rafale in fly-away conditions

India has more money now that they have ditched socialism and are experiencing faster economic growth. The point of buying Western arms isn't just to acquire the weapons systems themselves. The procurement contracts are also seen as a means of upgrading their aerospace manufacturing technology and industrial organisation as well, and they see Western suppliers as being more advanced in that respect.
Thanks for that.

I've said this before, and will say it again, just thinking about it, just trying to integrate and provide logistics for all that American, British, French, Russian and whoever else's hardware sounds like a night mare...

With added Israeli components and systems.
 
Bit of a diversion, but I stumbled upon this article about European delta designs and one respndent says the root design is German, adapted by the French for Rafale and by the Swedes for Grifen. Also says the Brits screwed up the Typhoon design.

I notice that this is from the aviation forum on Stackexchange. Stackexchange are primarily a software development forum where people post questions on software programming problems. However, it's also notorious for being full of bad information.

Posters compete for the Stackexchange equivalent of "likes" as having more points bumps them up a level in the established hierarchy, making their answers more prominent and establishes them as "experts". Many of them have found that the best way to do this is to google for popular answers from other forums and repost them on Stackexchange. The most popular answers are often not the right ones, but rather the ones which stand out due to conveying some position which is considered contrarian and so presents the poster as having some deep inner knowledge which he is deigning to share with the select few reading his posts. It helps if they post with confidence in a loud "voice" as it makes them sound as if they know what they are talking about (at least until they get rumbled). Some of this may sound vaguely familiar.

The end result is that shed loads of wrong, misleading, or simply outdated answers get voted to the top of the list and stay there because they become the conventional wisdom among that group. A large share of the questions which end up there tend to be students posting their homework hoping to get someone else to do it for them, so I suppose they get what they deserve. However, for some inexplicable reason Google ranks Stackexchange highly in their search rankings, so they are also the top results when the lowest-bid outsourced software developers google the answer for "how do I write software for banking log-in systems?" and get an answer from 2011 that nobody today with actual knowledge of the subject would accept as being valid.

That doesn't mean that everything on Stackexchange is wrong. It does mean though that you have to know something about the subject in order to separate the wheat from the chaff, as there is an awful lot of chaff there.

I wasn't aware that Stackexchange had an aviation forum, but if their aviation forum is anything like their software forums, take anything you read there with a very large grain of salt.
 

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Further to that the EAP had a cranked Delta Wing, whoever wrote that piece was talking shite

Every statement of fact in that post is completely and utterly wrong,. I can't be bothered going through it but anyone with cursory knowledge of European Fighter design can see that it is utter garbage.
Thank you, you beat me to it.

A friend of mine was involved in developing conops for the Tornado GR.1. He's one of those who points out that the Typhoon could have been bigger, to give a bigger internal fuel fraction. I remember also conversations with Mark Lambert, once the editor of Jane's All The World's Aircraft and he talked about Typhoon being the '80 percent solution'.

And he was perfectly correct; the radar's genesis is an example. But that 80 percent solution is bloody good.

As to Maggie limiting wing area... was it not the Germans who insisted on Tornado being shorter-legged than it might have been to avoid concerning the Soviets?

As you say, too much to pick apart to even start bothering with.
 
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They have started to arrive...didn't know that helis got a water cannon salute as well...








Pakistan should be "loving" this sale by the U.S. to the Indians.
 
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Well, the French have announced the Rafale is to stay in service until 2070, so there is hope yet they might sell some to the Indians
 
They have started to arrive...didn't know that helis got a water cannon salute as well...








Pakistan should be "loving" this sale by the U.S. to the Indians.
Screw Pakistan. Their secret services and the Taliban were way too cosy for our good.
 
The U.S - India relationship is growing in a big way. Everything from copters to drones to small arms.

I call it the China syndrome.
 
The U.S - India relationship is growing in a big way. Everything from copters to drones to small arms.

I call it the China syndrome.
The US can crack on; I'm sure the Russians will be delighted!

Regards,
MM
 

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