Independent: "Tory Government Tells EU That Royal Navy Will Be Sent In To Protect UK Waters From European Fishing Vessels"

soleil

War Hero
'We have significantly increased our enforcement capability....we think that is sufficient'

"The government's fishing minister has warned the EU that the UK has taken “sufficient” steps to protect its waters after Brexit, as fears grow of a French blockade.

The Royal Navy boasts three extra vessels, the Home Office will provide a further four and the government can call in help from the private sector, George Eustice said.

A new control centre has been launched, 50 extra fishery protection officers have been recruited and there will be “aerial surveillance”, a House of Lords inquiry was told.

“We have significantly increased our enforcement capability,” Mr Eustice said, adding: “We think that is sufficient.”

The extra muscle was set out after the controversy of access for EU boats emerged as key dispute in the post-Brexit trade talks, with Brussels demanding an agreement by the end of June.

Ministers have reportedly been told of a “nightmare” scenario, where French fishermen blockade ports and paralyse cross-Channel trade at the end of the year.

Officials are worried that Calais is uniquely vulnerable to even a small-scale protest against attempts to restrict the access of EU fishing fleets to UK waters.

Last week, Amélie de Montchalin, France’s Europe minister, warned that, without a deal, fishing could become a “very nasty battle” and could collapse the entire trade deal.

Emmanuel Macron, the French president, is believed to have warned other EU leaders that a failure to retain access to UK waters would trigger further street protests and civil unrest in his country.

Speaking to the Lords EU environment sub-committee, Mr Eustice said enforcement capacity has been boosted five-fold, in line with fears, last year, of a no-deal Brexit.

The planned decommissioning of older vessels had been shelved and more staff given training to board vessels, with “warranted” powers.

Neil Hornby, director of marine and fisheries at the department of the environment, food and rural affairs (Defra), said Border Force vessels could be brought in if necessary.

Mr Eustice also sought to dismiss fears that the entire trade deal could be lost over the fishing dispute, suggesting EU countries without fishing fleets in the North Sea would not allow it.

But Lord Teverson, a Liberal Democrat former MEP, told the minister he needed to “get real”, saying there was “not a snowball’s chance in hell” that the EU won’t tie fisheries access to trade.

The fishing minister said the UK was seeking an arrangement with the EU similar to Norway's, with annual negotiations based on the scientific evidence on fish stocks, but possibly a multi-year framework.

But, if no deal could be reached by the end of June, the UK would automatically become an “independent coastal state” from next January, with the power to determine access arrangements.

“We would automatically take back control of our exclusive economic zone and there would be an obligation on both us and the European Union to work towards a sensible annual negotiation at the end of this year,” Mr Eustice said."

 

Tuffty

War Hero
Now wait a minute i thought that the EU was meant to be holding us to ransom to get their own way NOT us telling them to either play fair or f*ck off
 
Let the froggies get uppity and start buggering about.

Then sink a few of them inside British territorial waters. They'll soon back down.
 
'We have significantly increased our enforcement capability....we think that is sufficient'

"The government's fishing minister has warned the EU that the UK has taken “sufficient” steps to protect its waters after Brexit, as fears grow of a French blockade.

The Royal Navy boasts three extra vessels, the Home Office will provide a further four and the government can call in help from the private sector, George Eustice said.

A new control centre has been launched, 50 extra fishery protection officers have been recruited and there will be “aerial surveillance”, a House of Lords inquiry was told.

“We have significantly increased our enforcement capability,” Mr Eustice said, adding: “We think that is sufficient.”

The extra muscle was set out after the controversy of access for EU boats emerged as key dispute in the post-Brexit trade talks, with Brussels demanding an agreement by the end of June.

Ministers have reportedly been told of a “nightmare” scenario, where French fishermen blockade ports and paralyse cross-Channel trade at the end of the year.

Officials are worried that Calais is uniquely vulnerable to even a small-scale protest against attempts to restrict the access of EU fishing fleets to UK waters.

Last week, Amélie de Montchalin, France’s Europe minister, warned that, without a deal, fishing could become a “very nasty battle” and could collapse the entire trade deal.

Emmanuel Macron, the French president, is believed to have warned other EU leaders that a failure to retain access to UK waters would trigger further street protests and civil unrest in his country.

Speaking to the Lords EU environment sub-committee, Mr Eustice said enforcement capacity has been boosted five-fold, in line with fears, last year, of a no-deal Brexit.

The planned decommissioning of older vessels had been shelved and more staff given training to board vessels, with “warranted” powers.

Neil Hornby, director of marine and fisheries at the department of the environment, food and rural affairs (Defra), said Border Force vessels could be brought in if necessary.

Mr Eustice also sought to dismiss fears that the entire trade deal could be lost over the fishing dispute, suggesting EU countries without fishing fleets in the North Sea would not allow it.

But Lord Teverson, a Liberal Democrat former MEP, told the minister he needed to “get real”, saying there was “not a snowball’s chance in hell” that the EU won’t tie fisheries access to trade.

The fishing minister said the UK was seeking an arrangement with the EU similar to Norway's, with annual negotiations based on the scientific evidence on fish stocks, but possibly a multi-year framework.

But, if no deal could be reached by the end of June, the UK would automatically become an “independent coastal state” from next January, with the power to determine access arrangements.

“We would automatically take back control of our exclusive economic zone and there would be an obligation on both us and the European Union to work towards a sensible annual negotiation at the end of this year,” Mr Eustice said."



Just what most of us want to hear! I for one got fed up to the back teeth with the grovelling acquiescence of Cameron & May to the EU's bullying.
Who remembers Cameron's gutless performance when the EU extorted yet more £billions, blustering he wouldn't pay but quietly caving in later David Cameron ‘Quietly’ Paid £1.7bn EU-UK Bill That He Promised To Fight Pre-Election
 
A few French trawlers sent to the bottom will show them we mean business.

Shades of Mers El Keber (or similar)?
 
So what can the Royal Navy realistically do to European fishing vessels in your EEZ? Are we talking about boarding boats and fining the crew? Arresting people?? Kinda curious about the pending fish fight.
 
So what can the Royal Navy realistically do to European fishing vessels in your EEZ? Are we talking about boarding boats and fining the crew? Arresting people?? Kinda curious about the pending fish fight.
I think that it's something along the lines of boarding the vessel, arresting the crew and then seizing it for illegally operating in UK sovereign waters.

Personally I think they should just sink them. Be far easier, Pierre and Juan Fandango won't dare sail into our waters for fear of not going home to their Gauloise and hairy armpitted women.
 

jg505

Old-Salt
So what can the Royal Navy realistically do to European fishing vessels in your EEZ? Are we talking about boarding boats and fining the crew? Arresting people?? Kinda curious about the pending fish fight.
I don't know what their legal rights are, I would have thought boarding and impounding an illegally fishing vessel the absolute minimum.

And, TBH, impounding vessels and then confiscating them should be quite a good deterrent.
 
I think that it's something along the lines of boarding the vessel, arresting the crew and then seizing it for illegally operating in UK sovereign waters.

Personally I think they should just sink them. Be far easier, Pierre and Juan Fandango won't dare sail into our waters for fear of not going home to their Gauloise and hairy armpitted women.
That might be a bit extreme don't ya think?
Seizing boats and arresting the crew might be a bone of contention.
 
That might be a bit extreme don't ya think?
Seizing boats and arresting the crew might be a bone of contention.
Why.
If they are operating in our waters illegally then if you get down to basics it's theft, they're nicking our fish.

Impound their boats and put the crew before the courts. Preferably in somewhere like Penzance.
 
Sovereign coastal state notes that it will enforce its rights under UNCLOS within it's own territorial seas and Exclusive Economic Zone.....

Nothing to see here.
 
Last edited:
Why.
If they are operating in our waters illegally then if you get down to basics it's theft, they're nicking our fish.

Impound their boats and put the crew before the courts. Preferably in somewhere like Penzance.
But could you start enforcement actions now, or would you have to wait until 2021?
 
So what can the Royal Navy realistically do to European fishing vessels in your EEZ? Are we talking about boarding boats and fining the crew? Arresting people?? Kinda curious about the pending fish fight.

Board, arrest, detain, take to court

Pay fine - get boat back
No pay fine - For Sale , Frog Trawler, one less than careful owner, smells of Gauloise
 

A2_Matelot

LE
Book Reviewer
That might be a bit extreme don't ya think?
Seizing boats and arresting the crew might be a bone of contention.
Read up on the "Cod wars", despite only one death (IIRC) it was interesting. At one point we had 22 frigates "fighting" and some converted to ramming ships!

UNCLOS allows you a sovereign right over your EEZ (out to 200nm), the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea sets out what warships and coastguards can reasonably do. Stop, search and seize is pretty much within those bounds.
 
Last edited:

Latest Threads

Top