Independent says "Veterans win fight for smart ID cards"

dave8307 said:
....and I STILL can't do linky things (can someone PM me on how to do them, please??)........

Copy the URL, by highlighting and pressing Crtl+C.

In the "reply" bit (note, not quick reply at the bottom of the screen) wyou will sa what looks like a globe with a chain at the bottom (3rd group of buttons from the left, so roughly in the middle).

Press the globe buttons. A dialogue box comes up (you may have to allow scripts, depending on machine, first.) Press Ctrl+V to paste.

Press Enter.

A new dialogure box opens, asking for what you want the link displayed as. Enter link name.

Press enter.

Et Voila, a long stream of code will appear in your reply, that is your "linky".

Back to the subject.....

Today is the 30 Mar.... that is TOO early for an April Fools.... isn't it?


Also I will be interested in finding out what it entitles for ex forces who have decided to settle in Germany & other European countries.


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About time! Another little gesture would be allowing every one who retires to retain their rank in the way that officers do. It may only be symbolic but symbols matter.

On the practical side we should, of course, have a proper military medical service with provision for veterans instead of the current botched job we have at MDHUs etc. Poor service to the troops, the vets and the medical staff.


I'm worried about the smart bit, it wont work will it, its got to be easier to link your service number to everything else surely!


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dumbstruck said:
Also I will be interested in finding out what it entitles for ex forces who have decided to settle in Germany & other European countries.

I don't suppose it will entitle them to anything although it may be useful for access to some of the social activities available on bases. At the end of the day we all have to accept some responsibility for our actions. Like most people I hope to emigrate I won't be looking to the British Government for any support when I'm gone.
Am I the only one a little worried about how we now like the ID card that can track our every move just because there is a 10% rail discount?!
I'll believe this 'Alice in Wonderland' story when I see the first cards issued. Shortly after the first issue, doubtless we shall see forged cards carried by 'chavs' and other assorted detritus of our so-called society.

I'm also intrigued by the 'roll-out' date - early 2010. No connection with the General Election of course! In any case, the introduction will be late due to 'on-going technical problems'.


Complete bollox. Its smoke and mirrors to make it look like they're doing something, nothing will change. I can't believe anyone with even a passing knowledge of this bunch of cnuts history would be drawn in by this.

Government just introduced 4 million ID cards by the back door.

Am I the only one here to see that?
Looks like the Poor and Hard Done By Students have been at that article and are posting the usual Comments. Makes you feel realy appreciatted to be left with life long problems from bothering your arrse to protect their security and freedoms.

How about sending a plane load of 'Do Gooders' to Afghan? As long as they all take their Rose Tinted Glasses I'm sure they'll be fine...!
There is also a petition HERE, which the telegraph is claiming s theirs, but was started by Combat Stress.

We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to allocate funds for a purpose built Veterans Mental Illness Rehabilitation and Support centre. To pay for separate military facilities that can accommodate and treat ex forces personnel with mental illness as a result of service to this country. To pay for treatment that is world class and not continue this ridiculous system of treating civilians and ex military personnel together on the NHS on a needs basis. This system does not work, ex forces personnel because of their profession witness and experience unique things and should be treated by military trained medical professionals who understand the needs of the patients.
ugly said:
I'm worried about the smart bit

I like you wonder WHY it has to be a Smart Card, what other personal data will be kept on the card and the central database where god only knows what they will keep for cross referencing and WHO will have access to that and WHY?

Is this an admission that the NHS Priority Scheme has FAILED, this is of NO surprise, as NO GP's wre aware of said scheme and yet in the last posted SPVA report, stated there had been very few complaints about the scheme the GP's knew nothing about, the good old Mushroom Syndrome!

It will also help those in their resettlement to be recognised as an ex servicemen / woman and give an in to more than NHS care. Are we NOW starting to follow what the USA have been doing for many years, so why now and perhaps the evidence is overwelming that the Sound Bites released by the Mod / NHS have bene just that words without substance!

However, this scheme for the new ID cards will not begin until next year and then only rolled out to the new service users and then to those who the SPVA should have ALL personal details NOW, so why do we HAVE to wait, what does the SPVA actually do?


Anyone want to have a sweep on how long it will take after the database is established, before the info is lost or stolen?

(Estimates to the nearest hour will do.)
rockape34 said:
There is also a petition HERE, which the telegraph is claiming s theirs, but was started by Combat Stress.

I thought is was the Independent Newspaper, no matter who it was, this is now being picked up by the major nationals and they seem to be adding to it most weeks. Even the Times on Saturday has a two page spread about lthose who had in different theatres of conflict and how the accumulation of front time service has enough to damage even to the strongest of minds.

I am only too well aware that there is for the country more important issues, but this has been well known for years that only one ex forces charity has been dealing with those the Mod have broken and then DUMPED into an unprepared and unaware NOT so National Health Service, with too many so-called managers attempting to manage so-called managers.
ANY and ALL press coverage has to be good, it opens up both debate and knowledge with many who either really don't and those who don't care.

It was interesting that it was the TIMES who after reading what I had put on ARRSE emailed me for all I Ihad been through since discharge and unable to work from October 1992.

The total lack of Mod interest / feedback / care and the way the NHS have denied the many NHS care if they are being treated by Combat Stress, the NHS seems to believe it is EITHER / OR! and the Mod have allowed the NHS to get away with it for too long.

What WE need NOW, is for ALL ex service charities to come together without thumping their own banner, as to some it has seemed from the outside that there have been times when ONE is pulling one way, others pull in a different direction, as I said, a PERCEPTION, or is it job protectioin?

While those who have been failed by the system, the NHS that we have been told is our ONLY access for help, when GP's have known NOTHING about MAP or CS, so have SSAFA / RBL not been informing the GP's nationally that the priority care is there NOW for all those who have served.


Imagine Govt planning to keep tabs on 4m subversives by giving them ID cards? Well they are all trained warriors after all!
heard_it_all_before said:
Looks like the Poor and Hard Done By Students have been at that article and are posting the usual Comments. !

Fvck em! They're lazy cvnts and they stink…

Best thing about this cedit crunch? All the lazy tossers are going to get one hell of a reality fix when they finish skiving at Uni. :twisted:

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