Increased Racism on the Site

in the 90s there was an punk band of asian-americans called The Chinkees
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There is a well-known rap artist from Indonesia of Chinese descent who no doubt in an attempt at post-ironic hipsterism called himself Rich Chigger. When he went to the US to find fortune and fame he was told in no uncertain terms that his name was a no-no. He now goes by the rather more prosaic and distinctly less-than hip name of Rich Brian.
 
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If perhaps you would stop trolling and understand the difference between ownership with epithets.
Now now you racist homophobe, I gave you the chance to backpedal from your statement and you didn't take it.

Can I clarify that you would base punishment of soldiers using certain words on their skin tone/sexuality etc?
How very prejudiced of you.
 
Now now you racist homophobe, I gave you the chance to backpedal from your statement and you didn't take it.

Can I clarify that you would base punishment of soldiers using certain words on their skin tone/sexuality etc?
How very prejudiced of you.
no, I would base it on the intent behind their use. A bit like how the law does.

now, do you think racism acceptable?
 
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Who, I think you’ll find, might just have to act within the Law to keep the site going?
Which is EXACTLY what The Duke explained to me. The CO's are ultimately responsible for the content of the site and whatever is posted. They have to ensure the site remains within the law, if people start posting stuff that can be construed as being Racist, then the smiting hammer comes out.

Fair play to the Duke though, I had a bollocking first before being hit with his hammer, and as Sixty so eloquently put it. "Toe the line or **** off".
 

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I found that quite amusing, especially at the end when Mr Wu p*ssed on a fire bomb.

I can't find evidence of a Chinese ARP warden but I have found an African lad. Nigerian who came over to study law.

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So George has educated me about the ARP 80 years down the line.

The 'Chink' reference may be a bit naughty now, but the song is humourous and not intended to be derogatory.

Compare with the 'grime' and 'drill' artists today. I doubt we'll be pulling out a yelling match about 'itchy trigger finger, niggaz' making booty calls to their 'hos, but always putting their bros first in 80 years time.
George is well worth doing a bit of research on imho.

He was a bit of a campaigner back in the day, a lot more edgey and political than many of the modern day campaigners.

While he did perform racy songs that were banned from the BBC he also played in South Africa and INSISTED he played to both black and white audiences even though that very much upset the whites in government or authority.
 
Of course there was - that's never been in dispute - but its been latched onto and exaggerated in an effort to overturn the result

Equally people who pointed out leaving would equal more brown people have been quietly forgotten (except Farage - who called for more immigration from the commonwealth yet was somehow racist)

Same as I saw individuals in both camps using the N word / jungle bunnies in respect to the calais camps and why remain meant letting them in / Brexit meant France would allow them in thus vote the other way.

Im not sure where his familiarity with foreigners is relevant - in a post that removed their britishness to make a snide insinuation that we see all non whites as foreigners / have a problem with them.

Its starting to grip my shit that (faith colour are irrelevant) the very people who stand there and say not all Muslims etc - will use terms like white privilege as applied to the UK* a phrase that is predicated on the fact a brown person will always be second choice if the boss is white - in other words the assumption is all white people are racist.

The snide" foreigners eh" that accompanies a goodwill story with a non white hero is just another symptom of that.

Its a double standard and it annoys me - whilst I personally am opposed to net immigration to the UK and would like to see the population spread out more across the british isles and indeed reduce about 20 Million** - that's because I feel current population is unsustainable- my opposition is to net not colour or faith. Equally ive no issue with more immigration to France - (where I live).

Yet im racist because - well I must be because we know anti immigration / pro Brexit / voted conservative = doesn't like foreigners .
This has become an established fact now to the extent that because I criticised France (in a small way***) I was called a little Englander and told I should go and visit other countries and not just stay in English pubs in resorts - but to go and meet the locals etc rather than gathering my views from the Daily mail.



Its a general rant rather than a rebuke of yourself personally

*It has more substance in the US however poorly contrived the language and argument is -which has some severe problems caused by PAST government policies - which do disadvantage black folk -(and native Americans- but somehow they dont count)

**For the record if im choosing I suspect the demography of those hoofed would more or less be in line with UK current ethnic make up.

*** I pointed out that casual racism was more prevalent in france - a view shared by several people who had lived / worked in both UK France a number of whom were of Asian decent.

Edit - for the record people banging on about Islam and failing to note Christianity's history or indeed the US bible belt would be just a galling - if it weren't for the fact it gets challenged
Just let me stand one aspect of that argument on it’s head. There are some on here that hold ALL Germans responsible for the Holocaust collectively. So if that is deemed a truism, then by definitition it is not unreasonable to say that Islamaphobia is a defence to those that hold all Muslims responsible for their acts Etc. Racism is by definition a distinction between “them and us” tribalism. The much vaunted Cherries Blair once said that one could understand the actions of Palestinians given no other outlet, inserting a big but into the Argument .That big but is that fundamentalism has been fed and therefore, we have to make allowances. Now there’s convenient
 

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At first glance I thought the thread title read

"Increased realism on the site"

Now that might have been a list worth entering if you pardon the RNism.
 
Which is EXACTLY what The Duke explained to me. The CO's are ultimately responsible for the content of the site and whatever is posted. They have to ensure the site remains within the law, if people start posting stuff that can be construed as being Racist, then the smiting hammer comes out.

Fair play to the Duke though, I had a bollocking first before being hit with his hammer, and as Sixty so eloquently put it. "Toe the line or **** off".
Sixty also eloquently put it that the Chinese are a massive bunch of cnuts, who are 100% pig ignorant ar*****es.

That sort of language could sort of be construed as racist, too.
 
You're ignoring me. Remember?
Told you many times, I am capable of ignoring you without placing you on ignore.. You responded to one of my postings with your usual flippant and inane digs and I thought it not unreasonable to explain in detail.

Naturally you respond again with a dig, so therein lies the lesson for myself :)
 

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At first glance I thought the thread title read

"Increased realism on the site"

Now that might have been a list worth entering if you pardon the RNism.
Now now, stop posting in this thread and make yourself useful in the relevant porn thread!!!!

Now we are increasingly locked down we need more porn like these armoured RL wagons ;)
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Given that we are only into the first week of lockdown, the site is likely to be seen by far more people than would normally view it, so they are likely to notice and comment on any racism ( ie they would normally be at work)
and report it to journos who are already trawling every thing looking for some news to earn their next badge
in the second and third weeks this site will likely receive a great deal more attention from bored individuals looking for the next new thing ie those with a short attention span
SO B.J s advice is eminently sensible
Just go back to picking on the RAF like every one else !!
Isn't picking on the RAF homophobic though?
 

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Now now, stop posting in this thread and make yourself useful in the relevant porn thread!!!!

Now we are increasingly locked down we need more porn like these armoured RL wagons ;)
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No roll cage for Rover number 2?
 
The word paki and queer/poof is quite common among the toms, surely you knew this having served? If anything the word n***er was used less in the past because there wasnt that many black soldiers.

After the Oldham riots in one of the official reports its was stated that they were surprised by the prolific use of the word paki. Clearly they were a bit like you and thought everyone was young and modern.
Who do you think are joining all the white only, black only,brown only (usually split with muslim only, Hindu only, Sikh only)? All old people?

Have you not noticed in the "vibrant, multi cultural" Army that most people stick to their own kind? Weird huh? Naturally no one ever uses nasty words.

Once again, whats the penalty in the Army for openly saying n***er/paki/poof etc?
You do like to ground everything in the ugly truth and don't sugar-coat it :) the sad reality, is the more the clever people believe in education and training to correct peoples thinking, the truth is its counter-productive.

Treat everyone the same, subject them to all the same pressures without favour and you build cohesion and unity. Treat everyone as a member of different groups and then place those groups in a hierarchy and you create hate, jealously and alll those old fashioned negative emotions your trying to change.
 

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It makes complete sense. If you saw a thread from someone saying that they fancied kids and that the treatment of paedophiles in the UK was discriminatory would you ignore it & put the author on ignore? Or would you do your damndest to make sure that the author was binned sharpish & not allowed to hang around and taunt everyone else on the forum as someone who condones those beliefs?
You seem really hung up on paedophilia so let's take a moment to deconstruct your comparison.

In the case of child abuse there's always a victim and there's always extensive damage, mental and physical. There is no case to be made in its defence which can avoid the central proposition that hurting children is acceptable. On that basis alone there is no moral or public interest justification to allow its advocates to promote their view - although Harriet Harman has tried to argue in the past that there was.

By way of contrast, Islam is a religion to its adherents and a political creed, which dominates a significant chunk of the world, to the rest of us. It's open to multiple interpretations and the Islamic practice takes many different forms, however, the core text and supporting hadiths contain some pretty extreme stuff and a central tenet of the religion is that the core text is the revealed word of God and cannot be wrong. The best that can be achieved is the philosophical fudge of saying that such and such a direction to torture or enslave is not appropriate to the current circumstances.

Interpretations of Islam can vary widely and still legitimately claim to be orthodox. ISIS is an orthodox movement in an Islamic sense and can find a justification in the core theology for everything that it did and continues to do.

It is clearly in the public interest to subject such a creed to rigorous scrutiny and to challenge the extremes, just as we would do with any other political ideology or major belief system, Left or Right. We should particularly challenge anything which believes itself to be beyond such scrutiny and anyone who tries to shut down the discussion.
 
I've been very disappointed about the racism of certain mods and their recent anti-Irish bias ....

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You seem really hung up on paedophilia so let's take a moment to deconstruct your comparison.

In the case of child abuse there's always a victim and there's always extensive damage, mental and physical. There is no case to be made in its defence which can avoid the central proposition that hurting children is acceptable. On that basis alone there is no moral or public interest justification to allow its advocates to promote their view - although Harriet Harman has tried to argue in the past that there was.

By way of contrast, Islam is a religion to its adherents and a political creed, which dominates a significant chunk of the world, to the rest of us. It's open to multiple interpretations and the Islamic practice takes many different forms, however, the core text and supporting hadiths contain some pretty extreme stuff and a central tenet of the religion is that the core text is the revealed word of God and cannot be wrong. The best that can be achieved is the philosophical fudge of saying that such and such a direction to torture or enslave is not appropriate to the current circumstances.

Interpretations of Islam can vary widely and still legitimately claim to be orthodox. ISIS is an orthodox movement in an Islamic sense and can find a justification in the core theology for everything that it did and continues to do.

It is clearly in the public interest to subject such a creed to rigorous scrutiny and to challenge the extremes, just as we would do with any other political ideology or major belief system, Left or Right. We should particularly challenge anything which believes itself to be beyond such scrutiny and anyone who tries to shut down the discussion.
Now write that again in response to what I actually wrote.
 

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Now write that again in response to what I actually wrote.
I was responding to your central point across the thread demanding to know why we wouldn't accept pro-Paedophilia posts but we are prepared to tolerate anti-Islamic posts.

If it bothers you that much, attach it to one of those posts - I simply couldn't be bothered to plough back through the thread to find a post where you'd made that point more specifically.
 

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